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rudderdancer



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 9:56 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Hello all,

I recently purchased a Kitfox model II. It has a few small cosmetic items I want to fix. The hardest one to me is how the flaperons drag on the bearing support on the turtle deck. Can anyone help me with some ideas in making the flaperons clear this bearing support when the wings are folded back?
I can send pictures off the forum to better show what is currently happening.
I'm looking forward to getting into the air very soon. Thanks in advance for your help.

Jack
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 29, 2006 10:57 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Hello Jack,
Welcome to the Kitfox list. By all means attach a photo so we can see what
the problem is. How hard do the flaperons hit the turtledeck? Enough to
damage either one?

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:56 am    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

My lower half bearing folds inward to allow the wing folding.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:23 am    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Jack,
It sounds like the builder omitted the hinge that allows the bearing support
to fold down. Mine fold inward as the wing is folded. The plans detail this
piece, if you have the manual.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 4:42 am    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

The Model 2 does not have a hinged bottom bearing. The bottom bearing
should be rounded at the back edge so the flapperon horn will snap over
the hump just a bit.

Jerry Liles

Bradley M Webb wrote:

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Jack,
It sounds like the builder omitted the hinge that allows the bearing support
to fold down. Mine fold inward as the wing is folded. The plans detail this
piece, if you have the manual.

Bradley

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:32 am    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> If memory serves, I believe it was found to be best to disconnect the flapperons prior to folding. This eliminates the problem.

Dee Young
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 5:44 am    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Right, I think the Model 1 and 2 , 3 had the Flaperons that you did not
have to disconnect ?
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:35 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Mine folds outward.

Lynn
On Monday, October 30, 2006, at 06:56 AM, dave wrote:

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My lower half bearing folds inward to allow the wing folding.

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:48 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Lynn,

My mistake -- mine does too.
Good thing for you observation folks or my prop would be on backwards Smile
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 12:58 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

It sounds like you are not pushing the lower half down prior to folding the wing back. Is that correct. It should be down when you fold the wings in and then pushed in place under the flaperon and vice versa, it should be pushed back down before you start to fold the wing back.
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 2:21 pm    Post subject: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Maybe they didn't come with the original kit, but my M2 has the inward-folding, hinged bottom flapperon bearings.

Jerry Liles <wliles(at)bayou.com> wrote: [quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: Jerry Liles

The Model 2 does not have a hinged bottom bearing. The bottom bearing
should be rounded at the back edge so the flapperon horn will snap over
the hump just a bit.

Jerry Liles

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[quote]--> Kitfox-List message posted by: "Bradley M Webb"

Jack,
It sounds like the builder omitted the hinge that allows the bearing support
to fold down. Mine fold inward as the wing is folded. The plans detail this
piece, if you have the manual.

Bradley

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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006 3:34 pm    Post subject: Re: Flaperon support on turtle deck Reply with quote

Thank you all that wrote a response. I'll try to attach some pictures now.
The very inboard ends of the flaperons are looking beat up. The bearing supports do not fold down and the clearance to the fuselage is very close.
One of you commented that the bearing support should guide the flaperon up and over. Could it be that that portion on mine should be tall enough to clear the turtle deck zus fastener and taper back toward the tail a little bit? Please continue to offer suggestions.
Thanks,
Jack


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