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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 8:09 am    Post subject: Tie Down Reply with quote

If you have a big wind coming up, remember the 1920's barnstormer trick.
Dig 2 holes in the dirt for the mains, make them deep enough to put the
wing at zero lift with the tailwheel on the ground. Put the mains in the
holes, fill them with dirt, then tie down your airplane. You'll have to
clean it up afterwards, but you'll still have an airplane even after one
heck of a wind.

Larry the micro Mong guy

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:16 am    Post subject: Tie Down Reply with quote

Dig 2 holes in the dirt for the mains, make them deep enough to put the wing
at zero lift with the tailwheel on the ground.>>

Hi Larry,

I reckon you will have earth halfway up the cage before you get a zero AoA
with the tail on the ground. The plane probably won`t blow away though.

Cheers

Pat

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 11:42 am    Post subject: Tie Down Reply with quote

Aha! A new use for my backhoe. Dig a big hole, bury the Kolb for the
winter.

I worry now about the structural integrity of my old airplane shed
(hangar would be
pretentious). The wings are in there for the winter, wrapped in an old
pool cover.
The plane is back in the subterranean shop. To compensate for excess
snow load
I prop up the center of the front beam with a jackscrew pipe. I also
have a steel
cable running in a V from the center to the top outer posts.
Worked for over 30 years but nothing is forever.
hunkered down BB
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On 4, Nov 2006, at 2:16 PM, pat ladd wrote:

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Dig 2 holes in the dirt for the mains, make them deep enough to put
the wing at zero lift with the tailwheel on the ground.>>

Hi Larry,

I reckon you will have earth halfway up the cage before you get a zero
AoA with the tail on the ground. The plane probably won`t blow away
though.

Cheers

Pat

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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006 3:46 pm    Post subject: Tie Down Reply with quote

Several of my past planes (GA..ugh) have had to be tied out for
various times. One way to keep them from soloing has been to make,
outa scrap, some top-of-wing spoilers. They were anywhere from 2-4
in. high, and at least 4 ft long, cushioned on bottom with either
salvaged styrofoam, old pcs of carpet, or under-carpet padding. They
were mounted about over the main spar, and held on with long bungees
that looped around chord-wise. A better way of mounting: make a thin
"hook" outa either scrap plywood or something flexible, that goes
from the spoiler forward and around the LE. A little thought and some
scrap (love that word) will yield a thing that will kill lift. Never
tried it on hor. stabs., but should work there.
regards,
Bob N. FireFly 070 Old Kolb
http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/


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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006 2:31 am    Post subject: Tie Down Reply with quote

some top-of-wing spoilers. They were anywhere from 2-4 in. high, and at
least 4 ft long, cushioned on bottom with either
salvaged styrofoam, old pcs of carpet, or under-carpet padding.>>

Hi,
used to do that on the old Dagling and Zogling type gliders in the early
days when we used to bungee launch. In the early instruction phase the lift
killers were slid onto the leading edge and the guy under instruction was
dragged across the field by half a dozen other students while the instructor
ran alongside shouting .

Mind you, the damn things would hardly lift off even without the lift
killers but it was a safeguard if there was a sudden gust of wind.

If you made them right they doubled as leading edge supports when the wing
was stacked away at the end of the session.

Pat


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