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p.mulwitz(at)worldnet.att
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 Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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Hi John,
I don't know of any FAA rules about where you can land your plane. I
do know there are very significant safety issues to consider when
landing off airport. It is one thing to make an emergency landing
when the engine quits, but quite another when you intend to do
regular operations off airport.
When using fields as runways, the two big issues are obstacles and
surface condition. I think you would be hard pressed to find a
relatively flat field with at least 1000 feet to take off from. That
might be a good length for a well broken in Zodiac. For initial
flight testing I would want a much longer runway. It would be very
unlikely to find a smooth surface on such a field unless it is a golf
course or some similar park-like setting. In that case the owner is
not likely to be very happy about you flying your plane on his lawn.
Roads are a special problem. They come with telephone wires and
poles, power poles and fences and signs. All of these things will
jump up and grab you. Also the surface quality varies considerably
from one area of road to another. Roads also include the special
feature of having motor vehicles and kids on bicycles using them.
For my money, it is much wiser to find an airport to fly your
plane. There are many public and private runways all over this
country. They all have prepared runways with no sneaky obstructions
and relatively good surface conditions. I would save the off airport
operations to those times when you just don't have any choice.
Paul
XL fuselage
At 08:45 AM 11/13/2006, you wrote:
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hi list
i am nearing the completion of my 601 and have
wondered overthe past 18 months about landing my
airplane on private property. I know the rule about
vfr flight and avoidance of structures, but many of
the people on this list fly off there own propety. is
there any faa rule that prevents landing on your own
property or say dirt roads off in the sticks.
regards
john butterfield
601xl/corvair
torrance, ca
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zodie(at)adelphia.net
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 9:54 am Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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heliav8r(at)swbell.net
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:12 am Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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The answer to both questions is, "NO!" As long as you comply with FAR
91.119 and FAR 91.13(a), the FAA will not prevent you from operating from
off-airport locations. If you plan continuous operation from the same
location, you may want to involve the FAA to declare your operational area
as a private airport.
FAR 91.119 - Minimum Safe Altitudes: General
Except when necessary for takeoff or landing, no person may operate an
aircraft below the following altitudes:
(a) Anywhere. An altitude allowing, if a power unit fails, an emergency
landing without undue hazard to persons or property on the surface.
FAR 91.13 - Careless or reckless operation
(a) Aircraft operations for the purpose of air navigation. No person may
operate an aircraft in a careless or reckless manner so as to endanger the
life or property of another.
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carlossa52(at)gmail.com
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 10:34 am Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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I believe other authorities (i.e., state and city) may have regulations on the subject ...
Carlos
CH60-1HD, plans
Montreal, Canada
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[quote] > --> Zenith-List message posted by: john butterfield
[quote] <jdbutterfield(at)yahoo.com (jdbutterfield(at)yahoo.com)>
hi list
i am nearing the completion of my 601 and have
wondered overthe past 18 months about landing my
airplane on private property. I know the rule about
vfr flight and avoidance of structures, but many of
the people on this list fly off there own propety. is
there any faa rule that prevents landing on your own
property or say dirt roads off in the sticks.
regards
john butterfield
601xl/corvair
torrance, ca
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 11:14 am Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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I guess you may also want to check for local by laws. E.g. Laws that
restrict sound ordinances or nuisance laws.
Noel
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tonyplane(at)bellsouth.ne
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| Posted: Mon Nov 13, 2006 8:39 pm Post subject: off topic/landing off airport |
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Before I retired and relocated out of SoCal, I called the Tennessee Dept of Aeronautics and asked what I would have to do in order to cut a runway so I could fly from my own property, assuming I retired to state of Tennessee. I expected a bureaucratic long answer relative to rules, regulations, permits, etc but the answer was "most people in Tennessee just use a bull-dozer".
Still have not completed my runway - almost there but the first try after it was graded and seeded, had a 41/2 inch rain fall the next day, and it was too late to replant. This year, after a really wet Spring and after fixing up the ruts and reseeding and grading as required, same thing happened. Hope to have it done by late Spring next year. (Also want to cut down an additional dozen 75 ft trees)
Tony Graziano
on-the-farm in Buchanan, Tennessee
601XL; N493TG; 171 hrs
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From: Noel Loveys (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca ([email]noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca?subject=RE:%20off%20topic/landing%20off%20airport&replyto=006201c70757$5222a38e(at)nojqtvq9ciryl1[/email])) Date: [b]Mon Nov 13 - 11:14 AM[/b]
I guess you may also want to check for local by laws. E.g. Laws that
restrict sound ordinances or nuisance laws.
Noel
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