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craig(at)craigandjean.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 9:42 am Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

Some have an "Ident" button for their transponder on the stick. I assume

they fly in controlled airspace a lot.



-- Craig

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larry(at)macsmachine.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:28 am Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

Hi John,

There's a tendency to put switches at the fingertips, but I'd resist 

more than the transmit switch for the

control stick.  Trim is a once or twice issue during flight and would 

place second to transmit activities.

The prospect of chasing a broken wire in the control stick after the 

airworthiness is also a much larger

problem if an when it happens.  The idea of mixing wires to 

multifunction switches in the stick are best left

to the computer joystick where you can set at a table to fix the errant 

connection.  Being upside down in

a 601 isn't a pretty picture.  Recommendation is to keep it simple and 

put your trim switches on the panel

near the throttle and the remaining switches in an order that can be 

memorized easily.  I used colored shrink

tubing to differentiate pumps from aux battery, the EIS and so forth.



The o-ring is fuel proof, was probably greased before assembly and 

likely will not leak the first 10 years.

Being in an aircraft probably suggested long term maintenance.  I'd not 

try to get to it unless it becomes

a problem or at least call the manufacturer for tech support.



Best regards,



Larry McFarland at www.macsmachine.com

john butterfield wrote:

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 hi list

 i am trying to decide what switches are really useful

 on the stick. i am going to use a radio transmit

 switch and perhaps an elevator trim.  are they hard to

 wire, ect helpful hints are requested



 also, after looking at my fuel selector valve, it

 comes with loose screws and there is a reference to

 greasing the o-ring inside.  i tried to pull the

 nozzle pieces out, but they are in very tight and i

 don't want to force them if no grease is necessary. 

 the valve is the one supplied with the kit  



 as for our English friend, remember the level of

 acrimony is inversely related to the level of

 intelligence of the poster.



 john butterfield 

 601XL, corvair

 torrance, ca

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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 11:53 am Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

I've had a five button Ray Allen grip on the front  stick in an ultralight for 3.5 years without any trouble. I will use a  seven buttom version on my left stick and a one button grip on the right stick  in my 601XL. The PTT at the 'trigger" position is not one that is easily  accidentally activated unless you tend to be a bit clutzy. The elevator and  aileron trim button are easy to access and completely intutitve to use. During  the progress of a flight I change the trim as the fuel burn changes the CG and  as speed changes as well. I expect the same to be true in the 601XL. In  addition, I expect to use aileron trim to counter fuel use from the wing tanks.  Since the Zodiac is a lot faster and more comfy than the UL, I expect to fly  farther and longer on X-C flights. Because of that, I  will have the transceiver frequency toggle function and the x-ponder Ident  function wired to buttons on the left stick too. 

  

 These grips are not terribly difficult to wire,  they don't screw up in my experience, and the convenience is something I want to  have. If you have room on the panel for trim switches and don't mind reaching  there for those functions, keep your stick grip simple..... you can even put  your ptt buttom there. If you like convenience, get the button-infested type of  grip. I like the convenience.

  

 Ed Moody II

 Rayne, LA

 601XL/Jabiru/baggage area

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JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

I also have the Allen 5 button handle grip on the CIP (left) side with only a PTT button on the right side grip. Dual sticks. The wires are all very fine size and need a protective sleve especialy at the bottom of the sticks. The only recomendation I can make is that I wish I had installed a connector at the bottom of each stick to make removing the sticks easier. Anytime you have to do anything behind the pannel or down at the brakes the stick has to come out to gain access. I did not install a connector when I built and it has been an issue getting "down under." I really like having the four trim buttons on the stick because I don't have to look away from flying or changes my hands to tune the flight. 

 Best regards, Bill of Georgia

 601xl - 3300

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RURUNY(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 4:07 pm Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

I have a PTT 

             Elevator  trim up

                           trim down

             Radio  Memory select on right

             Freq  flip from stby to active on left

 The radio buttons on stick can be changed to an aileron trim

 easily if I add it later.

  

 The right part of the Y stick just gets a PTT.

  

 Brian

 701

  

  

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amyvega2005(at)earthlink.
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Posted: Sun Dec 03, 2006 5:35 pm Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

PTT and trim if desired.  Pain with all the wiring,  I am just doing PTT on stick and trim buttons by the throttle.



Juan



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Afterfxllc(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 04, 2006 7:04 am Post subject: stick switches and fuel selector valve

The supplied fuel selector was shipped without the screws in the right and  left line inlets to allow you to rotate them if necessary, If you don't have to  rotate them just put the screws back in and hook it up, I had to pull mine out  and rotate them so the fittings would be tight and pointed in the right  direction. the are hard to pull out and mine had plenty of grease in them  already. The reason they rotate is so you don't have to over tighten the fitting  and cause damage or crack the housing. 

  

 Hope this helps.

 Jeff

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