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		zodiacjeff(at)msn.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 10:57 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				<?xml:namespace prefix="v" /><?xml:namespace prefix="o" /><![endif]--> The zenith-list digest received this a.m. for 12/04/06 was 76 messages long  and contained 160KB.
   
  The folks who don't know/use/care about 'do not archive' were at it again  as well as those who think everything they write is humorous and MUST be shared  with the world.  
   
  When received in my mailbox the digest contains a blue hyperlink for each  poster.  I'm sure there's a name for that item but being less than  knowledgeable about computer/e-mail programs I fail to know it.  When  clicked on that link opens an e-mail message board that allows direct  correspondence with the poster.  If you need to ask for info or respond to  an offer of pics/help, why not respond directly to the poster.  Wouldn't  this make the list less encumbered with "I'd like to see that too," or "I plan  on doing it that way," or my favorite, "What's the wx at your place?"
   
  Please ask yourself if your post is relevant to the hundreds of others  on this list - if it's not then send it off-list to the person directly.   The list was never meant to be a chat-list.
   
  No wonder some of the lurkers around the world think we're so arrogant in  this country.
   
  As I've been on this list since late '98 maybe I'm old-fashioned and need  to leave, but the lack of civility lately is discouraging.
   
  Regards  Jeff Small
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 12:04 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Hi Jeff,
   
  I'm not trying to be funny or  anything, but what's wrong with injecting a little humor and talk along with the  "facts". I look forward to reading the list every day. I don't agree with  everyone, but no one should. Once in awhile there is a discussion that comes as  close to a fist fight as you can get without actually being there. Kind of liven  things up a bit. I haven't been on the list for more than a few months but feel  like I already know some of the people here. I don't necessarily like every  thing that is written but I can just delete whatever that might be. I  kind of got in trouble a little while back for  bringing up something   a certain military person said about something in a certain conflict in a  certain country, do I don't do that any more. For what it's worth, this  list seems like a lot of hangar talk just like you would do at the airport,  or for that matter where any pilots get together. A lot of BS, good information,  personal opinions, etc., etc. I, for one, really enjoy it all. In fact, I  actually look forward to reading all the emails every day. I don't usually  respond to this kind of stuff on the list. It's probably none of my business  anyway, I've taken up enough space without any pertinent information to give.  Have a good day.
   
  Dave in Salem
   
   
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		JAPhillipsGA(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 05, 2006 4:13 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				I'm with Dave. Bill of Georgia
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 10:16 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				You are assuming it is being  done intentionally.... You are wrong!
   
  Sorry.
   
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		Afterfxllc(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 12:42 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				WTF this list has got to be the most childish list Matt works with. I have  never seen so many cry babies congregate in one area of the Internet and I don't  really care who the hell gets pissed about it.
  You don't want to see useless emails well what the hell was yours? 
  Why don't you go build something and leave the people that want to just  post a reply alone you jerk off?
  This list sickens me anymore.
   
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		jhstarn(at)verizon.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 1:53 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Sorry but if you want to locate the  largest whinners ya gotta go to the RV-10 list  BUT you will have to donate  some cheese to go with their Whine. 8*)
  KABONG   At least there was a  do not archive embedded in Jeff Small's post or  this one would be with us  for all time too
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		taffy0687(at)yahoo.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 3:42 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				AfterFxllc---- I'll consider the source--- but I think Jeff probable has been flying his airplane for some time now----- I could be wrong about that,  but I agree with Jeff 100%.  This list is very abused.
  Fritz
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		Afterfxllc(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:07 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Well KABONG I didn't add the do not archive because I knew that it was in  his but if it makes you Feel better...............
   
  Do not archive is this ok SIR KABONG
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		Afterfxllc(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 06, 2006 4:10 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Well, I guess we should ask permission to speak then sheeezz it is a  freaking email list good God lighten up.
   
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		nandrand(at)xtra.co.nz Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 1:38 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Hi team.
           I find  this list very informative, sometimes amusing, but never dull!!!  There is  obviously a wide social and interlectual spread of members, a lot cops, (ex  cops) Drill Sargents (ex milatary types, who can not let go) public  servants, professional nit pickers etc. who can not live thire lives with out a  rule book. (there is a place for some rules) But as some one wrote " Rules  are for the guidance of wise men, for fools to blindly follow"    Lighten up Guys, this is suppose to be fun, fun  ,fun!!!! 
   
                   Fly Safe   Noel
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		Jari Kaija
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 3:36 am    Post subject: Re: unbelievable! | 
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				 	  | zodiacjeff(at)msn.com wrote: | 	 		  
 
  No wonder some of the lurkers around the world think we're so arrogant in  this country.
   
  Regards  Jeff Small
 
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 I think and I'm very sure, that you don't really want to know, what people around the world think about USA and it's citizens... It's not bed-time readable text at all. Sad but true.
 
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		TxDave
 
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 5:36 am    Post subject: Re: unbelievable! | 
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				I think and I am very sure that millions of people from all over the world immigrate to the USA. You surely don't see people in the USA building rafts and risking their lives to get out. Most of those who criticize this country are either ignorant or jealous.  Go to a government website and read some immigration statistics for a nice bed-time story. And, by the way, Jari, a typical American citizen is white, black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc. That's not arrogance, "lurkers around the world"...that's just reality.
 
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		Float Flyr
 
  
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:22 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				I agree 
   
   
  
 Noel 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 6:23 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Forgot to say do not  archive
   
  sorry
   
   
  
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 7:26 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Noel, and others, could we just drop it..
 Dave Austin  601HDS - 912
 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 9:34 am    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				That's OK. I fit into the "a lot cops,  (ex cops) Drill Sergeants (ex military types, ex-high school coach"  category (been all three) but not to worry  the "D-N-A" was imbedded in the original Jeff Small post.
  I have some GREAT Christmas/snowman cartoons from the comic strip "Calvin  & Hobbs" to share BUT only for those who want a good laugh. Contact me  direct off-line & I'll send them to you.  MERRY CHRISTMAS..   KABONG jhstarn(at)verizon.net (jhstarn(at)verizon.net) 
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				 Posted: Thu Dec 07, 2006 10:14 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				Lets remember to try to keep  politics and religion out of any aviation list... Is a waste of time...
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 TxDave <dclaytx2(at)hotmail.com> wrote:[quote] --> Zenith-List message posted by: "TxDave" 
 
 I think and I am very sure that millions of people from all over the world immigrate to the USA. You surely don't see people in the USA building rafts and risking their lives to get out. Most of those who criticize this country are either ignorant or jealous.  Go to a government website and read some immigration statistics for a nice bed-time story. And, by the way, Jari, a typical American citizen is white, black, Asian, Hispanic, Arab, etc. That's not arrogance, "lurkers around the world"...that's just reality.
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:35 pm    Post subject: unbelievable! | 
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				William-
      I swore online that I wouldn't  get into a political discussion again, and I'll keep that promise. Please  realize that the US is made up of individuals that have the right to speak  their own minds. Very, very rarely do we all agree on anything, except for the  fact that we wouldn't have it any other way. I hope all international listers  will come to that conclusion from posts that cover the entire  spectrum.
      For me, I'll give up  my polisher when they pry it from my dead, cold fingers! (Which might not  be long, considering the forecast and my rate of progress!!)
   
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