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		tc1917(at)hughes.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 3:52 am    Post subject: props | 
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				I have read thru the archieves and still dont really know if I would be 
 better off with a warp drive prop on my sling shot or not.  I have a 582, 
 three blad IVO on it now with an E box and about 1 1/2 " of shim behind the 
 prop to bring it away from the ails.  my buddy has about the same exact set 
 up, 2.62 gears in his C box and flys circles around me with a 68' three 
 blade warp.  Now, my plane is a little heavier but he is physically heavier 
 so that cant be all that.  I have my engine mounted probably an inch or so 
 higher than his so I can fold the wings.  that might be some of it but he 
 drinks way less gas and climbs like an bat out of hell and suffers no take 
 off lag.  Is it or could it just be the warp is just that much better?  what 
 say you kolb gouls?  these are both new blue heads and our temps are almost 
 the same.  ted cowan, alabama.
 
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		flykolb(at)pa.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:20 am    Post subject: props | 
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				Ted,
 
 The faster UL's such as your SS will do better with the warp.
 I like Ivos for the FF and FS, but not for the SS.  I tried Ivos on both the
 582 powered SS and the much faster 582 powered Laser and the Ivos are
 definitely not as fast. The Laser suffered more speed loss than the SS - the
 faster the aircraft the larger the speed loss with Ivo.  (Now I am referring
 to the smaller x-section Ivo blade; had no experience with the larger HP
 ivos.)  If you want to out run your buddy, put on a 2-blade warp.  But I'd
 stay with the 3-blade warp for smoothness.   
 
 Dennis 
 
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		John Jung
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 4:34 am    Post subject: Re: props | 
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				Ted,
 
 Here is an idea: Exchange props for a day or two and see what happens to performance. Then, let the rest of us know.
 
 In my experience, there is little or no difference in performance between the Warp and the IVO.
 
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		Richard Pike
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:16 am    Post subject: props | 
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				Do you also have 2.62 gears like your buddy does? If so, try taking off one 
 of your three blades (It doesn't matter which one...  <grin>) and making it 
 a two blade Ivo. Prop if for about 6250 rpm at 50 mph on climbout and see 
 what happens top end. If that doesn't work, follow Dennis Souder's advice 
 and buy a 2 blade Warp. And let us know how things turn out.
 
 Richard Pike
 MKIII N420P (420ldPoops)
 
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		John Hauck
 
  
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				 Posted: Sat Dec 09, 2006 7:34 am    Post subject: props | 
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				|  Is it or could it just be the warp is just that much better? 
 ted cowan,
 Ted C:
 
 What is your engine rpm at WOT straight and level flight?
 
 john h
 mkIII
 
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		Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland. Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:32 pm    Post subject: props | 
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 < I have a 582, three blad IVO on it now with an E box … my buddy has a his C box and flys circles around me with a 68' three blade warp.  Is it or could it just be the warp is just that much better?  what say you kolb gouls?  ted cowan >>  
    
 Hi, Ted –  
    
 I can only speak experience with Powerfins, so I cannot comment on how it compares with the Warp.  But, if you’d like first-hand experience for YOURSELF, I have a 68” Powerfin for sale, three-blade, right-hand rotation.  Only 25 hrs total time, $375.  It’s an “F” model, which has fairly wide blades.  We’d love to hear about you outperforming your buddy!  
    
 Dennis Kirby  
 Mark-III, 912ul, Powerfin-72  
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