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Vanremog(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sun Dec 10, 2006 9:53 pm Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

Those of you using the Wix 51068 Oil Filter on the Lycoming engines, please  advise how to get a 3/4"-16 threaded fitting, since the ones on the  Champions appear to be crimped on.  Am I missing something obvious  here?

  

 -Thx

  

  

  

 GV (RV-6A  N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 823hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)  

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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 4:22 am Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

It'll come out.  On one of your old champion filters, double nut the nipple on the filter and wrench it off.  You'll have to do this every time you change the filter but its no big deal to do.



Regards,

Bob Japundza 

RV-6 flying F1 under const.



On 12/11/06, Vanremog(at)aol.com (Vanremog(at)aol.com) <Vanremog(at)aol.com  (Vanremog(at)aol.com)> wrote:[quote]     Those of you using the Wix 51068 Oil Filter on the Lycoming engines, please  advise how to get a 3/4"-16 threaded fitting, since the ones on the  Champions appear to be crimped on.  Am I missing something obvious  here?

  

 -Thx

  

  

  

 GV (RV-6A  N1GV O-360-A1A, C/S, Flying 823hrs, Silicon Valley, CA)  

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av.8(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

Seeing that I am using Shell's semi-synthetic 15-50 aviation oil, I figured

that using the latest technology oil filter would be a good match for the

oil.  With that in mind, I bought the latest Amsoil automotive filter, but

had to get an adaptor to mate the female oil filter thread to the female oil

filter boss on the Lycoming pad.  Lycoming happen to have such an adaptor,

but not for the thread size of the Amsoil filter.  I went to a friend that

runs an engineering shop, showed him the Lycoming adaptor and the oil

filter, and he machined one up. I haven't done an oil analysis as yet, but

hopeful of the next one showing less wear particles than the last.



Martin in Oz

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khorton01(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:59 pm Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

On 11 Dec 2006, at 16:20, Martin & Chris wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   

 Seeing that I am using Shell's semi-synthetic 15-50 aviation oil, I  

 figured

 that using the latest technology oil filter would be a good match  

 for the

 oil.  With that in mind, I bought the latest Amsoil automotive  

 filter, but

 had to get an adaptor to mate the female oil filter thread to the  

 female oil

 filter boss on the Lycoming pad.  Lycoming happen to have such an  

 adaptor,

 but not for the thread size of the Amsoil filter.  I went to a  

 friend that

 runs an engineering shop, showed him the Lycoming adaptor and the oil

 filter, and he machined one up. I haven't done an oil analysis as  

 yet, but

 hopeful of the next one showing less wear particles than the last.


	


Martin - what is the rated pressure for the Amsoil filter?  Lycoming  

engines may produce higher oil pressures in some conditions than is  

normally seen in automobile engines.  I have seen several reports of  

automotive oil filters bursting when installed on Lycomings, and I  

have seen one report of an automotive oil cooler bursting too.   

Admittedly I don't know whether these guys were running single weight  

oil, or multi-grade, nor do I know the ambient temperatures that were  

experienced.



Kevin Horton         RV-8 (finishing kit)

Ottawa, Canada

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HCRV6(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Mon Dec 11, 2006 10:41 pm Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

I must have missed the early part of this thread on alternate oil filters.  Would someone please enlighten me as to why the interest in alternate filters.  Seems like the aviation oil filters have worked quite well for some time and I have never heard of one bursting or any of the other things that seem to be a concern with automotive filters.  If the issue is cost, it seems pretty silly to me to take any risks to save the equivalent of three or at most four gallons of 100 LL every 50 hours.  Just curious.



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Harry Crosby

RV-6 N16CX, 293 hours



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From: "Martin & Chris" <av.8(at)bigpond.com>

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 Seeing that I am using Shell's semi-synthetic 15-50 aviation oil, I figured

 that using the latest technology oil filter would be a good match for the

 oil.  With that in mind, I bought the latest Amsoil automotive filter, but

 had to get an adaptor to mate the female oil filter thread to the female oil

 filter boss on the Lycoming pad.  Lycoming happen to have such an adaptor,

 but not for the thread size of the Amsoil filter.  I went to a friend that

 runs an engineering shop, showed him the Lycoming adaptor and the oil

 filter, and he machined one up. I haven't done an oil analysis as yet, but

 hopeful of the next one showing less wear particles than the last.

 

 Martin in Oz

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rocketbob(at)gmail.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:14 am Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

Because they work better, have an anti-drainback valve, have better filtering media, have a better bypass spring and valve, have good burst pressure specs, are proven running in Lyc's, are available locally, and cost $5.79. 



Regards,

Bob Japundza

RV-6 flying F1 under const.



On 12/12/06,  HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net) < HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net)> wrote:[quote]--> RV-List message posted by:   HCRV6(at)comcast.net (HCRV6(at)comcast.net)



I must have missed the early part of this thread on alternate oil filters.  Would someone please enlighten me as to why the interest in alternate filters.  Seems like the aviation oil filters have worked quite well for some time and I have never heard of one bursting or any of the other things that seem to be a concern with automotive filters.  If the issue is cost, it seems pretty silly to me to take any risks to save the equivalent of three or at most four gallons of 100 LL every 50 hours.  Just curious. 



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n801bh(at)netzero.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 6:39 am Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

In all my years on the earth I have NEVER seen an automotive filter burst, in fact I have NEVER seen one loosen up over time, they always seem to get tighter <G>... The tab to safety wire thats on the aircraft filters probably don't need to be on there anymore... Just my two cents worth... And of course I am a Auto engine conversion addict.... 

do not archive

Ben Haas

N801BH

www.haaspowerair.com



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I must have missed the early part of this thread on alternate oil filters.  Would someone please enlighten me as to why the interest in alternate filters.  Seems like the aviation oil filters have worked quite well for some time and I have never heard of one bursting or any of the other things that seem to be a concern with automotive filters.  If the issue is cost, it seems pretty silly to me to take any risks to save the equivalent of three or at most four gallons of 100 LL every 50 hours.  Just curious.



--

Harry Crosby

RV-6 N16CX, 293 hours



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From: "Martin & Chris" <av.8(at)bigpond.com>

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 Seeing that I am using Shell's semi-synthetic 15-50 aviation oil, I figured

 that using the latest technology oil filter would be a good match for the

 oil.  With that in mind, I bought the latest Amsoil automotive filter, but

 had to get an adaptor to mate the female oil filter thread to the female oil

 filter boss on the Lycoming pad.  Lycoming happen to have such an adaptor,

 but not for the thread size of the Amsoil filter.  I went to a friend that

 runs an engineering shop, showed him the Lycoming adaptor and the oil

 filter, and he machined one up. I haven't done an oil analysis as yet, but

 hopeful of the next one showing less wear particles than the last.

 

 Martin in Oz

 

 

 

 

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av.8(at)bigpond.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:39 pm Post subject: Using Alternate Oil Filter

Kevin, Harry -



Like you, I was concerned about burst pressures and not having a lock wire

tab on the automotive filter, but after speaking to a friend who is licenced

aircraft mechanic as well as the local Amsoil distributor, I was satisfied

that the filters are tested to a much higher pressure than the 100 psi that

it is likely to ever see, and I used a hose clamp around the body to retain

the lockwire, same as I have done many times on race-bikes.  The fact that I

use a multi-grade oil and live in a warm climate were just added insurance.

As for penny pinching being the main reason for changing, the Amsoil filter

costs me more here in Oz than the Kelly Aerospace ones that I had been

using.



Another 10 hours and I will drain the oil and have it analysed, then I will

have a better idea if this is going to be worthwhile.



Martin in Oz

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