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		shashby79er
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:05 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Hello  My name is Shawn... new to the list... figured this was the best place for quick Commander info and connections.
 
 There's an Aero Commander 720 in Torrance, CA  KTOA   N138K
 
 does anyone know anything about this particular airplane?  history, previous owners maybe insight into it's condition.     I do know it was last flown regualarly in 83-84  ferried in '86 and again in '96.      
 
 Any 720 or 680E owners out there with advice?
 Thanks
 SHAWN
 
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		budplaster(at)aol.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 8:30 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Shawn,
     
    Welcome. This is truly a wonderful site that is helpful, beneficial and enjoyable to the current and future Commander owners. I do not know this machine. However, the first critical thing you need to find out is if it can be ferried to a site where work can take place. That is, unless you have available hangar space at KTOA.
    I purchased a 560E that had been sitting unmoved and exposed to the weather in Compton, Ca. for nine years. Getting it flyable so it could begin a six year restoration was an arduous and costly task.....worth evey minute and dollar spent.
    Buddy     
     
   
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		John Vormbaum
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 9:01 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Shawn,
 
 If this is the airplane I think it is, the pressurization system has been 
 removed (among other things) and I think it would be a VERY long, VERY 
 expensive restoration project. There are a couple of people who have looked 
 at it and passed. For what it needs, you might want to save some money and 
 buy a new Eclipse or TBM 700 instead.
 
 /John
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 10:28 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Or a Commander !
 
 Nicolas E. Martin
 Martin Container, Inc.
 1402 E. Lomita Blvd.
 Wilmington, Ca 90748
 Tel: 310-830-5000, Fax : 310-830-2562
 
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		bowing74(at)earthlink.net Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 12:06 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				"Eclipse or TBM 700"
 BLASPHEMY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
 bilbo  
 
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		shashby79er
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:05 pm    Post subject: Re: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Thanks for the responses....   
 I have not looked at it yet... but I am aware that others have looked.. and have passed... I am aware of it's NTSB damage history and I also know about the camera door and the pressurization being removed.    
 
 Since it's a 720  I thought it would be an interesting and rewarding restoration project..pressurization or not.   Just looking for background info.. other than the information I can get from the current owner.   Complete aircraft with a  Solid airframe is key... ferriable is second in line... 
 
 SHAWN
 gathering information for a reckless monetary decision...
 
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		John Vormbaum
 
  
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:30 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Sorry, I should have said "a NEWER Commander!" but I was just trying to 
 illustrate a (price) point.
 
 /J
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		moe(at)rosspistons.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:54 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Shawn,  
    
 Where are you located?  I am about 10 miles from TOA.  Also I have the repair manual of the 720 Alta Cruiser.   
    
 I will be in Florida for a week, if you want I can go have a “look see” week after next.    
    
 Moe  
 N680RR  
 680F(p)  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of budplaster(at)aol.com
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 Shawn,  
     
    
     
 Welcome. This is truly a wonderful site that is helpful, beneficial and enjoyable to the current and future Commander owners. I do not know this machine. However, the first critical thing you need to find out is if it can be ferried to a site where work can take place. That is, unless you have available hangar space at KTOA.  
     
 I purchased a 560E that had been sitting unmoved and exposed to the weather in Compton, Ca. for nine years. Getting it flyable so it could begin a six year restoration was an arduous and costly task.....worth evey minute and dollar spent.  
     
 Buddy       
     
    
   
  
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		moe(at)rosspistons.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 2:57 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Is this a week attempt at "stop spin"?
 
 Moe
 Do not archive
 
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		shashby79er
 
 
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 4:57 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				HI Moe>>
 I was going to look at it sometime later in the month... the owner is out of town starting the 18th...   I'm located in SanLuis Obispo, CA   KSBP.
 
 I'm pretty sure the plane is still parked at or near Rolling hills aviation in Torrance.   It would be a big help to look at it with the help of  a Commander efficiannato... or to just have someone stop by and gather intel for me.   before I spend a day driving or flying down to see it.    Lets keep in touch
 SHAWN
 
 Moe - Ross Racing Pistons <moe(at)rosspistons.com> wrote:[quote]        v\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} o\:* {behavior:url(#default#VML);} w\:*  {behavior:url(#default#VML);} .shape {behavior:url(#default#VML);}  <![endif]-->      st1\:*{behavior:url(#default#ieooui) }  <![endif]-->         Shawn,
    
   Where are you located?  I am about 10 miles from TOA.  Also I have the repair manual of the 720 Alta Cruiser. 
    
   I will be in Florida for a week, if you want I can go have a “look see” week after next.  
    
   Moe
   N680RR
   680F(p)
    
         
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  Subject: Re: Aero Commander 720
   
    
     Shawn,
   
      
   
     Welcome. This is truly a wonderful site that is helpful, beneficial and enjoyable to the current and future Commander owners. I do not know this machine. However, the first critical thing you need to find out is if it can be ferried to a site where work can take place. That is, unless you have available hangar space at KTOA.
   
     I purchased a 560E that had been sitting unmoved and exposed to the weather in Compton, Ca. for nine years. Getting it flyable so it could begin a six year restoration was an arduous and costly task.....worth evey minute and dollar spent.
   
     Buddy     
   
      
   
    
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				 Posted: Tue Dec 12, 2006 5:54 pm    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				If that's the one that was on Ebay amonth or so ago then I think Morris said he knew right much about it.  It would be woth the expense to get his appraisal.
 Phil
 
 On 12/12/06,  Shawn Ashby <shashby79er(at)yahoo.com (shashby79er(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] HI Moe>>
 I was going to look at it sometime later in the month... the owner is out of town starting the 18th...   I'm located in SanLuis Obispo, CA   KSBP.
 
 I'm pretty sure the plane is still parked at or near Rolling hills aviation in Torrance.   It would be a big help to look at it with the help of  a Commander efficiannato... or to just have someone stop by and gather intel for me.   before I spend a day driving or flying down to see it.    Lets keep in touch 
 SHAWN
 
 Moe - Ross Racing Pistons <moe(at)rosspistons.com (moe(at)rosspistons.com)> wrote:[quote]                  Shawn,
     
   Where are you located?  I am about 10 miles from TOA.  Also I have the repair manual of the 720 Alta Cruiser.  
    
    I will be in Florida for a week, if you want I can go have a "look see" week after next.  
     
   Moe
    N680RR
   680F(p)
     
         
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  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:30 AM
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  Subject: Re: Aero Commander 720
   
     
     Shawn,
   
       
   
     Welcome. This is truly a wonderful site that is helpful, beneficial and enjoyable to the current and future Commander owners. I do not know this machine. However, the first critical thing you need to find out is if it can be ferried to a site where work can take place. That is, unless you have available hangar space at KTOA. 
   
     I purchased a 560E that had been sitting unmoved and exposed to the weather in Compton, Ca. for nine years. Getting it flyable so it could begin a six year restoration was an arduous and costly task.....worth evey minute and dollar spent. 
   
     Buddy     
   
       
   
    
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		moe(at)rosspistons.com Guest
 
 
 
 
 
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 7:29 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				Shawn,  
    
 Stay in touch.  
    
 Regards,  
    
 Moe  
          
   
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Shawn Ashby
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 4:58 PM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: RE: Aero Commander 720  
   
    
 HI Moe>>
  I was going to look at it sometime later in the month... the owner is out of town starting the 18th...   I'm located in SanLuis Obispo, CA   KSBP.
  
  I'm pretty sure the plane is still parked at or near Rolling hills aviation in Torrance.   It would be a big help to look at it with the help of  a Commander efficiannato... or to just have someone stop by and gather intel for me.   before I spend a day driving or flying down to see it.    Lets keep in touch
  SHAWN
  
  Moe - Ross Racing Pistons <moe(at)rosspistons.com> wrote:    
 Shawn,  
     
    
     
 Where are you located?  I am about 10 miles from TOA.  Also I have the repair manual of the 720 Alta Cruiser.   
     
    
     
 I will be in Florida for a week, if you want I can go have a “look see” week after next.    
     
    
     
 Moe  
     
 N680RR  
     
 680F(p)  
     
    
         
     
 From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of budplaster(at)aol.com
  Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2006 8:30 AM
  To: commander-list(at)matronics.com
  Subject: Re: Aero Commander 720  
   
     
    
       
 Shawn,  
   
       
    
   
       
 Welcome. This is truly a wonderful site that is helpful, beneficial and enjoyable to the current and future Commander owners. I do not know this machine. However, the first critical thing you need to find out is if it can be ferried to a site where work can take place. That is, unless you have available hangar space at KTOA.  
   
       
 I purchased a 560E that had been sitting unmoved and exposed to the weather in Compton, Ca. for nine years. Getting it flyable so it could begin a six year restoration was an arduous and costly task.....worth evey minute and dollar spent.  
   
       
 Buddy       
   
       
    
   
     
  
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				 Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2006 9:06 am    Post subject: Aero Commander 720 | 
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				In a message dated 12/12/2006 2:06:48 P.M. Pacific Standard Time,  shashby79er(at)yahoo.com writes:
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  SHAWN, CALL ME AT 360-903-6901  Jim Metzger Director,  TCFG
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