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VE3LVO(at)rac.ca
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 6:36 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

Cheers,

        On the subject of birdstrikes and helmets:

        Didn't I see a TV ad for a plastic layer to add to glass/whatever 

which renders it virtually impervious to baseball bats, robbers' tools (and 

birdstrikes)? Might be worth searching........

Ferg

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dcarter11(at)sbcglobal.ne
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 10:43 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

For 3M films, go to

http://www.3m.com/us/arch_construct/scpd/windowfilm/



The "breakage protection" films are listed under "Safety and Security 

Films" - At the link above, go to the left column and click "Products", then 

"Residential" (or probably any of them) and click

"3M Scotchshield Safety & Security Films" link after reading the blurb.



David



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VE3LVO(at)rac.ca
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Posted: Sun Jan 29, 2006 8:28 pm Post subject: Hardened Windshield

Thank you, David,

            I think it's just the ticket

Ferg

PS ....Brian - might even stick it on your visor(s)?



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mcculleyja(at)starpower.n
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

The following is an inquiry and subsequent response from 3M regarding 

their product being used on windshields as added bird impact protection:



 	  Quote: 	
		   Has this product been tested on General Aviation aircraft windshields as 

 > a viable protection against impact damage and cockpit penetration by
	


 	  Quote: 	
		   inflight bird collisions?


	


Thank you for contacting 3M.  We appreciate your interest in our 

products. Our products have been tested for the application you describe 

and we currently do not manufacture/market a product, which would meet 

your needs.



Regards,

Thomas

3M Building Safety Solutions Department

Http://www.3M.com/windowfilm

1-800-480-1704

David Carter wrote:

[quote] 

 

 For 3M films, go to

 http://www.3m.com/us/arch_construct/scpd/windowfilm/

 

 The "breakage protection" films are listed under "Safety and Security 

 Films" - At the link above, go to the left column and click "Products", then 

 "Residential" (or probably any of them) and click

 "3M Scotchshield Safety & Security Films" link after reading the blurb.

 

 David

 

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Bruce(at)glasair.org
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 8:50 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

Sounds like the standard run from aviation liability to me.



Bruce

www.glasair.org

 



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BigD(at)DaveMorris.com
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:09 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

Tell him you have a $10,000,000 order, and ask if he would like to run it 

past his supervisor before writing you off.



Dave Morris



At 10:49 AM 1/30/2006, you wrote:

[quote]



Sounds like the standard run from aviation liability to me.



Bruce

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skywagon(at)charter.net
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

Keep in mind a couple of thoughts.......

This material could very well work in the GA impact applications "most of 

the time", but, I am guessing that 3M does not see a market large enough to 

commit to the testing and paper work hassles that they would have to work 

through.  Also, I am assuming that these are "films" of some type and I 

would venture to guess that they do not have the ability to be applied to 

all the compound curves in our various windows and canopies designs.

David

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VE3LVO(at)rac.ca
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 11:09 am Post subject: Hardened Windshield

It is obvious3M want nothing to do with any such practice, purely for the 

litigation inferred. As for compatibility, I suspect you just buy some and 

try it out. I would rather lose ten bucks than my eyesight - might even 

stick it on my visor too.

Ferg

PS They sell shaded film for the roof, too.



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alexpeterson(at)earthlink
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Posted: Mon Jan 30, 2006 4:28 pm Post subject: Hardened Windshield

 	  Quote: 	
		   Thank you for contacting 3M.  We appreciate your interest in 

 our products. Our products have been tested for the 

 application you describe and we currently do not 

 manufacture/market a product, which would meet your needs.

 

 Regards,

 Thomas

 3M Building Safety Solutions Department


	


When I was building my slider, I bought some nice weatherstripping from some

outfit, high quality stuff with 3M adhesive etc..  They typically sell only

wholesale, so my "business" was aircraft building.  About 4 years later, I

got a letter from the company saying that, unfortunately, they would not be

able to sell to me anymore, being that their new policy prevented use in

airplanes.  I admired their recordkeeping.



In a democracy, we get the government we deserve.



Alex Peterson

RV6-A N66AP 112 hours

Maple Grove, MN

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