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Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 10:41 am Post subject: Payment Question

Kolb Friends -



For those of you who have sold large-dollar-amount items (like airplanes

or engines), how do you work out the payment plan?



For example, let's say I found a nice, low-time 912ul engine on

Barnstormers that I wish to purchase from an individual to give to Big

Lar for Christmas so he can get Vamoose flying.  I don't want to send a

check for $8,000 to a stranger until the engine I just bought is

delivered at my door.  Similarly, he does not want to ship his engine to

me until he is sure I've sent his $8,000.



Is there some kind of escrow service that we can use to address this

dilemma?



I've heard of "PayPal" accounts that many folks use for purchasing stuff

on eBay, but I don't have such an account.  What are the options that

would benefit both parties?



Many thanks -



Dennis Kirby

Cedar Crest, NM

a58r(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 12:25 pm Post subject: Payment Question

Dennis,



Go to   http://www.paypal.com and jump through their hoops..easy.

regards,

Bob N.    FireFly 070 Old Kolb

http://www.angelfire.com/rpg/ronoy/



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jim

Joined: 03 Nov 2006
Posts: 107
Location: N. Idaho

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 1:21 pm Post subject: Payment Question

As a seller, Paypal has a $500/month max unless seller provides their SSN

for Uncle Sam.  If an individual with a one-time sale, seller may not want

to do that.  Also, seller may get charged 3% fee on the money they

received from PP.  That's $240 they would loose unless you pay extra.



If you or a friend can't pick it up in person, I think the best bet is to

talk to the individual and determine if you trust him/her.  Check ebay

feedback, research the store,etc.  If you don't trust them enough to send

in your money, you probably should not bid on the item.



I will sometimes ask for a 3-day inspection on an item I purchased.  If it

is not as advertised, then return it for refund; less shipping.  You can

negotitate anything you want, but  in the end you will have to trust the

seller first.



Jim

N. Idaho



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 <Dennis.Kirby(at)kirtland.af.mil>





 Kolb Friends -



 For those of you who have sold large-dollar-amount items (like airplanes

 or engines), how do you work out the payment plan?



 For example, let's say I found a nice, low-time 912ul engine on

 Barnstormers that I wish to purchase from an individual to give to Big

 Lar for Christmas so he can get Vamoose flying.  I don't want to send a

 check for $8,000 to a stranger until the engine I just bought is

 delivered at my door.  Similarly, he does not want to ship his engine to

 me until he is sure I've sent his $8,000.



 Is there some kind of escrow service that we can use to address this

 dilemma?



 I've heard of "PayPal" accounts that many folks use for purchasing stuff

 on eBay, but I don't have such an account.  What are the options that

 would benefit both parties?



 Many thanks -



 Dennis Kirby

 Cedar Crest, NM

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Jim
N. Idaho

biglar

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 457

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 3:48 pm Post subject: Payment Question

You're buying me an engine ??  Gee, you're a wonderful guy, but Christmas is 

past, so I guess I'll just hafta wait till next year, eh ??



I've also heard that PayPal has an escrow service, but I'd be very, very 

careful.  PayPal is OK, I'm told, but I've had a huge amount of spam using 

the PayPal name, and it makes me very nervous.                         Lar.



P.S.    1 of these days we gotta get together and at least say hello, since 

I'm only about 65 miles away.  Right now I'm up to my ears in the new job, 

and pretty much working 7 days a week.  No relief in sight, but the 

weather's been terrible, so nothing else to do anyway.



Larry Bourne

Santa Fe, NM

www.gogittum.com

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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"

pj.ladd(at)btinternet.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 4:11 pm Post subject: Payment Question

but Christmas is past, >>



Hi Lar,



but Christmas is like the Ides of March `come Ceasar but not yet gone`. You 

could still be lucky.



Cheers



Pat

biglar

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 457

Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:22 pm Post subject: Payment Question

Should I hold my breath ??                Do not Archive.



Larry Bourne

Santa Fe, NM

www.gogittum.com



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Larry Bourne
Palm Springs, CA
Building Kolb Mk IIIC
"Vamoose"

ElleryWeld(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed Dec 27, 2006 5:56 pm Post subject: Payment Question

After the Problems I have had with pay pal I would not recomend it!  or someone from another country will be living off your bank acount dont ask me how I found that out 

 

 

          Ellery 

 

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mustangsally(at)semo.net
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Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 5:49 am Post subject: Payment Question

I think Barnstormers has an escrow service.  

 Jerry

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Thom Riddle

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1597
Location: Buffalo, NY, USA (9G0)

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 6:04 am Post subject: Payment Question

Last airplane I sold we used escrow.com. They are not geared up for 

airplanes but they are for cars etc. It worked out fine for both the 

buyer and seller.



Thom in Buffalo

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Buffalo, NY (9G0)

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Eugene Zimmerman

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 392

Posted: Thu Dec 28, 2006 10:58 am Post subject: Payment Question

Ellery,



I'm really sorry to hear about your unfortunate experience.



I believe the problems you have had with Papal are not the fault of  

Papal but with the scum bags that mimic Paypal and e-Bay with their  

authentic looking email and web page interface that are actually not  

from these businesses at all, but are bogus messages of expert scams  

artists.



If you never reply directly to anything that appears to be coming  

from these sources, but go directly to the official Papal or E-Bay  

websites you will have no problem.



If you would first check the source address and the return path to  

all the authentic looking messages that appear to be coming from Pay- 

Pal and from E-Bay to you you would find that most if not all of them  

are actually NOT genuine messages from Pay Pal or from E-Bay.



It is not accurate to blame the legit Internet companies for what  

dishonest crooks have done to you.



Because of the risks involved WORLD WIDE WEB internet commerce is  

probably not for everyone, but I believe with proper vigilance  

Internet commerce with reputable businesses can be  as safe as with  

your local bank or merchant.



Gene,

On Dec 27, 2006, at 8:56 PM, ElleryWeld(at)aol.com wrote:



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		   After the Problems I have had with pay pal I would not recomend  

 it!  or someone from another country will be living off your bank  

 acount dont ask me how I found that out

          Ellery



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JetPilot

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 1246

Posted: Fri Dec 29, 2006 8:37 pm Post subject: Re: Payment Question

Paypal is a big company with a good reputation.  I have used them for years, and use them a LOT, never the slightest problem.   As Eugene said, if you got ripped off, you probably did something wrong.



Phishing is done all the time - Crooks imitate banks, paypal, and all sorts of legitimate companies.   If someone rips you off by representing themselves as Citibank, its not the fault of the bank.   Just as paypal is not repsonsible for every crook that manages to talk people out of thier money using their name.   



JettPilot

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