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effectus(at)rogers.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

RV-10 Listers,

  

     I have just completed my newly designed Brake Pedals and  Teflon-cored braided stainless steel brake line system. I am considering  offering this package up for sale.

  

     Brake Pedals

  

     I designed the brake pedals to eliminate a problem a  number of RV pilots have shared with me. When coming in for a landing with a  crosswind it is very easy to be applying the brake simultaneously with  moderate rudder inputs. This leads to higher tire wear due to the  application of brake at touchdown. In extreme cases the aircraft could veer  unexpectedly upon touchdown.

  

     My design allows room for your toe and provides a  separate pedal tread for rudder only application. When you are applying rudder  the brake pedal is depressed OFF. You simply move your foot upward, placing your  toe on the upper tread and the heal of your foot on the lower tread to apply the  brakes.

  

     The brake pedal chassis are constructed from stainless  steel so that there will be no di-electric issues in an area that sees moisture.  The tabs are TIG welded and the assembly is screwed together using stainless  steel hardware. The pedal treads are high quality rubber units that come from an  automotive supplier.

  

     I have designed these brake pedals to exactly fit in  place of Van's pedals and they align at the top when the bottom of the rudder  hoops are aligned at the bottom. 3 bolts out, 3 bolts in. All you have to do is  place the appropriate washers for proper spacing.

  

     Teflon-cored Braided Stainless Steel Brake Line  System 

  

     I also developed an upgrade to the Plastic brake line  system that Vans provides with the kit. I have replaced the entire brake line  system from the reservoir to the Matco Parking brake interface with the  aluminium lines on the firewall.

  

     In this installation I have inverted the Matco master  cylinders. This allows for a much neater installation and less clutter between  your feet.

  

     I developed this system for a couple of reasons. First,  I heard that there were some leakage issues with the plastic lines as well as  some sponginess over time that has been attributed to the rubber lined braided  hoses that Van's supplies.

  

     Secondly, there is aesthetics. I couldn't get over the  fact that I am building an aircraft valued over $200,000 that has the same brake  lines that are supplied with many ultralight kits. The footwell looks much more  professional and much less cluttered.

  

  

     There are 3 photos below showing the entire system  installed in my RV-10. I anticipate that the brake pedals are going to sell for  $175.00 for one side and $300.00 for both sides. I have yet to receive the total  cost of components for the brake lines so I haven't set the price for  them.

  

     I am putting this out to the list to gauge interest. I  have most of the pieces of the puzzle in place to begin selling them. I just  need to hear from you builders as to whether there is interest.

  

  

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cloudvalley(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 8:56 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Albert Gardner

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 455
Location: Yuma, AZ

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 10:15 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Dave-I’m interested but the pictures don’t show details very well. Do you have any others that show details better?  

Albert Gardner  

Yuma, AZ  

   

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mike(at)cleavelandtool.co
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:30 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

I put the full size photos on our website at:



www.cleavelandtool.com/filecab/brakes.htm 



On 1/2/07,  Albert Gardner <ibspud(at)adelphia.net (ibspud(at)adelphia.net)> wrote:[quote]                   

Dave-I'm interested but the pictures don't show details very well. Do you have any others that show details better?  

Albert Gardner  

Yuma  , AZ  

   

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bldgrv10450(at)comcast.ne
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 12:58 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Dave

 I am interested in your pedal design and the  break line plumbing work. Does Matco advise and approve the inverted  master cylinders? Is there a greater chance for leakage? Have you  considered the weight change from the original design? Questions,  questions, I know. Thanks for putting your effort into this design  change. I have not liked the rudder pedal design from the beginning  and agree with you 100% that it needs  improvement.    

 Paul Grimstad

RV10 40450 fuselage

Portland,  OR 97219



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dmaib@me.com

Joined: 25 Apr 2006
Posts: 455
Location: New Smyrna Beach, Florida

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 3:52 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

I would be interested.

David Maib

#40559



On Jan 2, 2007, at 10:18 AM, Dave Hertner wrote:

RV-10 Listers,

 

    I have just completed my newly designed Brake Pedals and Teflon-cored braided stainless steel brake line system. I am considering offering this package up for sale.

 

    Brake Pedals

 

    I designed the brake pedals to eliminate a problem a number of RV pilots have shared with me. When coming in for a landing with a crosswind it is very easy to be applying the brake simultaneously with moderate rudder inputs. This leads to higher tire wear due to the application of brake at touchdown. In extreme cases the aircraft could veer unexpectedly upon touchdown.

 

    My design allows room for your toe and provides a separate pedal tread for rudder only application. When you are applying rudder the brake pedal is depressed OFF. You simply move your foot upward, placing your toe on the upper tread and the heal of your foot on the lower tread to apply the brakes.

 

    The brake pedal chassis are constructed from stainless steel so that there will be no di-electric issues in an area that sees moisture. The tabs are TIG welded and the assembly is screwed together using stainless steel hardware. The pedal treads are high quality rubber units that come from an automotive supplier.

 

    I have designed these brake pedals to exactly fit in place of Van's pedals and they align at the top when the bottom of the rudder hoops are aligned at the bottom. 3 bolts out, 3 bolts in. All you have to do is place the appropriate washers for proper spacing.

 

    Teflon-cored Braided Stainless Steel Brake Line System

 

    I also developed an upgrade to the Plastic brake line system that Vans provides with the kit. I have replaced the entire brake line system from the reservoir to the Matco Parking brake interface with the aluminium lines on the firewall.

 

    In this installation I have inverted the Matco master cylinders. This allows for a much neater installation and less clutter between your feet.

 

    I developed this system for a couple of reasons. First, I heard that there were some leakage issues with the plastic lines as well as some sponginess over time that has been attributed to the rubber lined braided hoses that Van's supplies.

 

    Secondly, there is aesthetics. I couldn't get over the fact that I am building an aircraft valued over $200,000 that has the same brake lines that are supplied with many ultralight kits. The footwell looks much more professional and much less cluttered.

 

 

    There are 3 photos below showing the entire system installed in my RV-10. I anticipate that the brake pedals are going to sell for $175.00 for one side and $300.00 for both sides. I have yet to receive the total cost of components for the brake lines so I haven't set the price for them.

 

    I am putting this out to the list to gauge interest. I have most of the pieces of the puzzle in place to begin selling them. I just need to hear from you builders as to whether there is interest.

 

 

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David Maib
RV-10 #40559
New Smyrna Beach, FL

LARSON36(at)aol.com
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

I would be interested, 

  

 Larry Klein,  40206   larson36(at)aol.com (larson36(at)aol.com) 

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LARSON36(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 6:52 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Dave,

  

 I am interested as well 

  

 Larry Klein

  

 40206

 Monterey, Ma.

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kearney(at)shaw.ca
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Posted: Tue Jan 02, 2007 7:32 pm Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

I would be interested,   

    

   

    

Les Kearney  

RV10 # 40643 – Lost in the empennage  

  

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
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Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 5:11 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Dave,

  

 I'm interested. I assume if I receive it and it's  not what I thought it would be I would be able to return it. 

  

 Wayne Edgerton 40336

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effectus(at)rogers.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Jan 03, 2007 11:01 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Wayne,

  

 The customer has to be happy or there is no point in offering it for  sale.

  

 Dave

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wayne.e(at)grandecom.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Jan 04, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: New Design Brake Pedals and Stainless Brake Lines

Hi Dave,

  

 That's a very logical answer and the only reason I  asked was because I've been the first kid on the block for several of these new  products, which always didn't work out and their answer wasn't the same as  yours. 

  

 Wayne Edgerton #40336

  

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