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wnorth(at)sdccd.edu
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 4:37 pm Post subject: AWO

Well,



Bob, 



Thanks for an interesting discussion. While I did not witness that accident

I have met several who did and were first responders. Over the years many

have supposed the belt was strapped around the unused stick, and as

mentioned, when I do that to prevent control banging in the wind I do it to

the left stick which is where I fly from in my -six. My tribute to Don is to

have possibly learned from this.



I did however question this theory and so sought to prove or disprove it. I

strapped my right belt around the right stick and then tried to climb in the

left seat. While I don't claim to be the most endowed soul out there I do

claim a portion of excess belly and this experience was somewhat painful in

several areas.



So, I thought to myself, being a true believer in imperical evidence, maybe

the issue was the added burden of being in a hurry. So in the second attempt

I tried the hop, skip, leap, Batman/Dukes of Hazard style of RV entry with

the stick strapped full aft and I will be getting released from the hospital

sometime in the next few months (although they may be putting me in another

kind of hospital after that).



So I'm not satisfied the stick strapped mistake thing could have been

reasonably possible. However a buckle could have ended up going down the

hole and ??? So I always keep unused straps and whatever secured. And when I

do, I think about that accident.



As for NTSB reports, if you've been to one and then read what they say

happened, well, they aren't always the most reliable thing. In fact I know

of one fly-in incident where the date and the N number were the only two

correctly listed facts.



RE EAA, I would be surprised if EAA is involved with this lawsuit. NWEAA is

the organization that was sued I believe, and the word I have is there will

be an NWEAA Fly-in at AWO next year, beyond that the experts say that Mt.

Rainier is scheduled to become active so it won't matter much.



And sadly, we just had the exact same accident occur in front of my hangar

row on a banner tow pickup two weeks ago. Crushed a bright young woman in an

instant as the Cessna 150 was perfectly vertical at impact. One would hope

the lesson dost not have to be repeated so regularly.



ta ta



W



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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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Posted: Sun Jan 21, 2007 5:15 pm Post subject: AWO

Can you clarify this?  They were doing a banner tow pickup with a Cessna

150?  I have done banner tows with a 170 (180 H.P.).  You come across the

rope line dragging a grapple hook and then point your airplane up until the

parachute you are pulling comes taught or you run out of airspeed.  It all

happens very fast.  A 150 though seems a bit under powered for this.



Just curious however

Tim

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>an instant as the Cessna 150 was perfectly vertical at impact.

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