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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:15 am    Post subject: Slips Reply with quote

Got out the 172 manuals just out of curiosity. For the N and P models in chapter 2, "Limitations", under Placards, Cessna tells you that a placard must be near the flap switch that says "Avoid slips with flaps extended". Same models, in chapter 4, "Normal Procedures", under cross wind landings, "If flap settings greater than 20 degrees are used in sideslips with full rudder deflection, some elevator oscillation may be felt at normal approach speeds. However, this does not effect the control of the airplane."
I can't find my manual for the K model, narrower main gear, ten less HP, and flaps go to 40 degrees, and 100 lb. less MTOW than the N and P, so I can't quote it right now. I can tell you it comes out of the sky at about the same glide angle as the Space Shuttle when doing a forward slip with flaps 40. The rudder buffets a bit, and you can feel a pulsation in the yoke, but it slips to either side just fine.
If you've ever read "The Lucky Bastard Club", sorry it's in a box somewhere and I can't remember the author's name right off, the author mentions that he asked his instructors why the Army didn't teach slips. The aircraft are too big and too heavy was the usual reply. At several places in the book he makes a point of describing the slip characteristics of the Stearman and the Cessna AT-50. Toward the end of the book he slyly lets you know that the Boeing B-17G slipped just fine, too.
As for the Mk 3, it slips just fine, too. I sometimes wish for a bit more rudder area, but I suspect that may be more pilot than aircraft.

Rick
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PostPosted: Wed Jan 24, 2007 8:35 am    Post subject: Slips Reply with quote

Thanks Rick

It must have been a Flap issue my instructor was concerned with....
This was 20 years ago that this happen..
As with most flying related things they get a little fresh paint over
time Cool

Mark Vaughn

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