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ashontz

Joined: 27 Dec 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 6:38 am Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

When is it best to start doing this, after the two top and bottom skins and on and clecoed (but not riveted), and before the nose skin is even messed with? Anybody have and timelines as to when they did all they internal work.

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Michael Valentine

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 7:49 am Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

I did most of my stuff after riveting the bottom skin.  I would drill your entire top skin to A5, finish the wing tip, and then have at it.  I also worked on my nose skin and fuel tank before running the wires/tubes.



 I bought nylon conduit from Vans and ran it the length of the wing just behind the baggage locker.  (On that note - make sure you know where the back of the locker is before you run your wires so that they are clear.)  I ran this conduit about an inch below the top of the wing.  I ran tubing for AOA/pitot near the bottom.  The big conduit used grommets 931-14-20 (I think - that is from memory - the 14-20 is definitely right).  The conduit is fantastic for easily running wires.  You can cut small holes in it along the way if you are installing aileron trim or a heated pitot. 



Have fun.



Michael in NH

- finishing the second wing this weekend come hell or high water



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When is it best to start doing this, after the two top and bottom skins and on and clecoed (but not riveted), and before the nose skin is even messed with? Anybody have and timelines as to when they did all they internal work. 



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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 8:10 am Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

I did my plumbing & wiring after I had the bottom skin riveted and the top skin drilled out for rivets, but off the frame.  As I recall, the nose skin was clecoed to the bottom of the nose ribs, but open on top.



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When is it best to start doing this, after the two top and bottom skins and on and clecoed (but not riveted), and before the nose skin is even messed with? Anybody have and timelines as to when they did all they internal work.



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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 10:40 am Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

Stupid me.... I just realized we're talking about wings, not fuselage. Excuse the brain fart.



Dred



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 I did my plumbing & wiring after I had the bottom skin riveted and the top skin drilled out for rivets, but off the frame.  As I recall, the nose skin was clecoed to the bottom of the nose ribs, but open on top.

 

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bryanmmartin

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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 1:50 pm Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

I would suggest drilling all the holes first, there's less chance of 

drilling into any of the plumbing or wiring. After that the plumbing and 

wiring can be done anytime before final closure. The control cables can 

be routed through even after closure, I just fished a piece of string 

through with a broom handle and used the string to pull the cables 

through during final construction.



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pilot4pay

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Posted: Fri Feb 09, 2007 2:02 pm Post subject: 601XL Wing plumbing and wiring and control cables.

Forgive me if this is slightly off topic, but I spotted an ad for Kapton tubing the other day in one of my engineering newsletters.  

The stuff is very light and thin, and carries a fire resistant rating. It may not be as cheap as the stuff from Lowe’s aviation supply, but for lightness I would it is worth a look. I worked with this stuff years ago, and perhaps for out aircraft, it might make a good conduit choice. Try a Google on Kapton tube.  

Craig Smith        

  

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I did most of my stuff after riveting the bottom skin.  I would drill your entire top skin to A5, finish the wing tip, and then have at it.  I also worked on my nose skin and fuel tank before running the wires/tubes.

 

 I bought nylon conduit from Vans and ran it the length of the wing just behind the baggage locker.  (On that note - make sure you know where the back of the locker is before you run your wires so that they are clear.)  I ran this conduit about an inch below the top of the wing.  I ran tubing for AOA/pitot near the bottom.  The big conduit used grommets 931-14-20 (I think - that is from memory - the 14-20 is definitely right).  The conduit is fantastic for easily running wires.  You can cut small holes in it along the way if you are installing aileron trim or a heated pitot. 

 

 Have fun.

 

 Michael in NH

 - finishing the second wing this weekend come hell or high water  

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