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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 7:47 am Post subject: Flap motor

Just before I shipped the aircraft over to the USA I fitted a new flap motor as the old one had died. As you would expect (with my luck). E04 had changed the design of the motor and therefore I had to re position the mountings. Because of the tight timescale for shipping. I never got a chance to flight test this motor until yesterday (yes I actually went flying..!). I notice that the new motor seems a lot slower than the original. The time from zero flap to full flaps is 17 seconds and retracting back to zero is 18 seconds. Has anyone else noticed this and is it normal with the later flap motors?  

Many Thanks in advance.  

   

Alan  

Trigear 914  

N134AB  

(look out America its now flying..!)  

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NevEyre(at)aol.com
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:25 am Post subject: Flap motor

Hi Alan,

 Yes, the newer flap drive motors are much slower in operation, the supply  of the original ones dried up when the manufacturer discovered where they were  ending up..... a few were purchased covertly, but in the end they  sussed......... the only ones that could be found to fit the bill were the ones  currently available.

 So, not a problem with your motor, they are all that way.

 Cheers,

 Nev.

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jodel(at)nildram.co.uk
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:39 am Post subject: Flap motor

Mine has the zippy motor but the aircraft that I did my check out in was much slower.  I know that I have the “old” type but what was in the other I don’t know.  

   

Simon  

         

  

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows

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Just before I shipped the aircraft over to the USA I fitted a new flap motor as the old one had died. As you would expect (with my luck). E04 had changed the design of the motor and therefore I had to re position the mountings. Because of the tight timescale for shipping. I never got a chance to flight test this motor until yesterday (yes I actually went flying..!). I notice that the new motor seems a lot slower than the original. The time from zero flap to full flaps is 17 seconds and retracting back to zero is 18 seconds. Has anyone else noticed this and is it normal with the later flap motors?  

Many Thanks in advance.  

   

Alan  

Trigear 914  

N134AB  

(look out America its now flying..!)  

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alan(at)kestrel-insurance
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: Flap motor

Thanks Nev.  

   

That’s a relief. I guess I just stay with it then. Do you happen to know who it was that supplied the original motors as I may go direct and try to get hold of some. I can usually get what I want when I need to J  

   

Sorry I didn’t get back to you about the tie downs, but I have been trying to work out what you meant and having a think about it myself. I must be honest the idea of attaching something to the bell crank mounting didn’t really appeal to me. So how about this as an option.  

It is possible to get in through the   clear plastic inspection cover as you said, so why not design something along the lines of the Europa attachment, but instead of being bent at a right angle to bond into a corner, why not have the plate straight (still with holes in it) and bond it directly onto the main spar. You could hold it in position whilst the adhesive sets either with a piece of wood fed in through the inspection hatch or maybe a couple of screws directly into the spar. That way the load would all be taken directly on the spar and the original Europa eye bolts could still be used.  

What do you think?  

   

Alan  

         

  

From: owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of NevEyre(at)aol.com

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Hi Alan,  

    

Yes, the newer flap drive motors are much slower in operation, the supply of the original ones dried up when the manufacturer discovered where they were ending up..... a few were purchased covertly, but in the end they sussed......... the only ones that could be found to fit the bill were the ones currently available.  

    

So, not a problem with your motor, they are all that way.  

    

Cheers,  

    

Nev.  

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ami(at)mcfadyean.freeserv
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Posted: Mon Mar 12, 2007 1:21 pm Post subject: Flap motor

Alan,

 Too late now, but the old flap motor can often be  resurrected by cleaning the commutator, which suffers from oil falling in from  the bearing above it.

 Or new one from the supplier (made in the US and  used on RVs and Kitfoxes too).

  

 Duncan  McF.

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mau11(at)free.fr
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Posted: Tue Mar 13, 2007 9:50 am Post subject: Flap motor

Hello  Simon,

 Is it  possible that you give me the manufacturer and PN of the flap  motor?

 Thank  you

 Michel  Auvray

 Builder N°145 >> 300 hours flight.

  

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Mine has the zippy    motor but the aircraft that I did my check out in was much slower.  I    know that I have the “old” type but what was in the other I don’t    know.   

    

Simon   

             

   

From:    owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com    [mailto:owner-europa-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Alan Burrows

Sent: 12 March 2007 15:43

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Subject: RE: Flap    motor

   

    

Just before I shipped    the aircraft over to the USA I fitted a new flap motor as the old one had    died. As you would expect (with my luck). E04 had changed the design of the    motor and therefore I had to re position the mountings. Because of the tight    timescale for shipping. I never got a chance to flight test this motor until    yesterday (yes I actually went flying..!). I notice that the new motor seems a    lot slower than the original. The time from zero flap to full flaps is 17    seconds and retracting back to zero is 18 seconds. Has anyone else noticed    this and is it normal with the later flap motors?   

Many Thanks in    advance.   

    

Alan   

Trigear    914   

N134AB   

(look out America its    now flying..!)   

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