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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:12 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Congrads on picking up your engine!  I know  there are many of us waiting to see your success.  Was that a paid  interview on Eggenfellners site?

  

 Dave Leikam

 40496

 QB Wings and stuff.

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DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com
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Posted: Tue May 15, 2007 7:33 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Oops, 

  

 I forgot to mention Dan Lloyd got his  engine.

  

 Dave Leikam

  

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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:08 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end  of a long day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put  it in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was recording  it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it this afternoon and  be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have helped  several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this  install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel feed  and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready to run. The 4  bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least it will look real cool  on the ground!

 Dan 

 N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new  Egg! 



   From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM(at)WI.RR.COM]  

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM

To: matronics;  Lloyd, Daniel R.

Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

 

 Congrads on picking up your engine!  I know  there are many of us waiting to see your success.  Was that a paid  interview on Eggenfellners site?

  

 Dave Leikam

 40496

 QB Wings and stuff.

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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Pictures man, pictures!  Document the hell out of that install, startup, and first run.  Nice vid by the way.  Heh.  

   

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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.

 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 8:08 AM

 To: Dave Leikam; matronics

 Subject: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.  

  

  

   

No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put it in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least it will look real cool on the ground!  

Dan   

N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!   

       

  

From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM(at)WI.RR.COM] 

 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM

 To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.

 Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.    

Congrads on picking up your engine!  I know there are many of us waiting to see your success.  Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?  

    

   

    

Dave Leikam  

    

40496  

    

QB Wings and stuff.  

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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 6:27 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Dan,



I have a MT three blade prop and its a challenge to get the lower cowl off 

and not ding the prop with the piano hinge or scrap the the front gear leg 

fairing.  Any issues with the four blade prop and removing the cowl?



Mark

N410MR





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		  From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR(at)wernerco.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: "Dave Leikam" <DAVELEIKAM(at)wi.rr.com>,        "matronics" 

<rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.

Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 09:07:54 -0400



No, it was not paid, as a matter of fact it was at the end of a long

day, and I thought he was taking pics as we were getting ready to put it

in the van, but then he kept asking questions and I realized he was

recording it. I got the engine home late last night and will mount it

this afternoon and be ready to run it in a matter of hours. I have

helped several people install engines, baffling etc, and comparing this

install to those is night and day. Basically there are 6 bolts, a fuel

feed and return and several electrical hookups and the engine is ready

to run. The 4 bladed prop is sweet, no ifs, ands or butts! So at least

it will look real cool on the ground!

Dan

N289DT Sleeping on the trailer with me new Egg!



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From: Dave Leikam [mailto:DAVELEIKAM(at)WI.RR.COM]

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 12:12 AM

To: matronics; Lloyd, Daniel R.

Subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Congrads on picking up your engine!  I know there are many of us waiting

to see your success.  Was that a paid interview on Eggenfellners site?



Dave Leikam

40496

QB Wings and stuff.


	


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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:01 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

I will have to let you know on this, since one has not been done yet for

the 10. I will have the engine mounted and ready to run tonight, then I

will have to fit the cowl before the fuse goes to paint next week. As

soon as I get the cowl fit I will let you know how this will work out.

The 4 blade looks awesome though.

Dan 



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mritter509(at)msn.com
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 12:00 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

The MT three blade is sexy.  A four blade will be 25% more than sexy.  Send 

pictures and hope all goes well.



Talked to Bill Gipson from Conroe, TX this weekend in Brenham (home of Blue 

Bell Ice Cream)  and he is anxiously waiting on his Egg engine to mount in 

his RV-10.  He should be happy to hear they are shipping.



Mark

N410MR





[quote]From: "Lloyd, Daniel R." <LloydDR(at)wernerco.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.

Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 12:00:55 -0400






I will have to let you know on this, since one has not been done yet for

the 10. I will have the engine mounted and ready to run tonight, then I

will have to fit the cowl before the fuse goes to paint next week. As

soon as I get the cowl fit I will let you know how this will work out.

The 4 blade looks awesome though.

Dan



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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:09 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

And just to point out, one of the things I criticized Egg for when he offered the package in the first place was that he seemed to have a history of delivering a year beyond his promised dates.  This was based on reports from several of his buyers.  I got the usual anti-anything-but-Lycoming rhetoric.



    Dan, when was it when you ordered again?    In all fairness, many of the other things I criticized like HP, re-drive, and supercharger have also all been changed to realistic numbers/solutions.  In my research it is those changes, and the subsequent re-engineering on the fly, that tend to drag out his deliveries.  Just something to keep in mind when planning guys.



Nomex suit engaged.  Heh



Michael Sausen

-10 #352 Limbo



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GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:47 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with?  I would have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but slow down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd guess the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total weight with hardware etc would be higher?  Correct or incorrect?

  

 Patrick 



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millstees(at)ameritech.ne
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Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:03 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Patrick:

  

 I don't know the exact weights... I believe  the 4 blade is 29lbs, and the usual Lycoming prop assembly is 50 ish. The reason  the 4 blade is lighter, is because the blades are hollow graphite.  This  works, because the engine is so smooth.

  

  

Steve Mills N750SM (reserved)

RV-10E  40486 Slow-build

Naperville, Illinois

Finishing kit

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mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Wed May 16, 2007 3:05 pm Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Patrick,



If they are composite/wood like the MT three blade prop they may be lighter 

than the two blade Hartzell.  The MT is 20# lighter than the Hartzell two 

blade.



Mark

N410MR





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		  From: GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.

Date: Wed, 16 May 2007 18:46:22 EDT



What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's

CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with?  I 

would

have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but 

slow

down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd 

guess

the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total

weight with hardware etc would be higher?  Correct or incorrect?



Patrick



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:10 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

And in all fairness to reply to this, I ordered before he even had a 10

package, and have been working with him to design it. I bugged him every

week for about a year after the 10 came out, begging him to design it.

Then once he agreed to it, I have worked closely with him to provide

what was needed. 

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		  From following the engine for over 6 years, I was well aware that

delivery dates were always slipping and I planned appropriately, like
	


any good PM would do, and it is that pre-planning that has allowed me to

receive the engine at exactly the correct time it was needed to continue

to make progress. His delivery date was not an impact to my project, but

had I waited until last August to order for this year then I would have

been delayed.

Yes, what you are saying happens, continually trying to upgrade the

engine can cause delays, but now that Gary is on board I think you will

see many changes, both in delivery and consistency in the engines that

are shipping. 

Eggenfellner has all of the issues of a small company, they have a

product that too many want, IE they have more orders than they can keep

up with, and as such they are experiencing growing pains, and that is

the key to why Gary was hired. He will establish the procedures for

production and process change and keep the company moving forward, while

Jan can now focus on just the engineering aspect of the engine and be

able to implement the changes.

As in any project, timelines slip, but with the correct planning some of

these slips can be accounted for and dealt with. So long story short,

did the timeline slip, yes, but communication from Jan was continual and

he always was open to why and how long it would slip and each time it

was for a better product, so I was willing to wait.

Dan

N289DT RV10E 



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:15 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

In correct, the prop  weighs36-38Lbs, The MT 3 blade weighs 42, and the Hartzell two blade weighs 60+.  We weighed each when I was there last summer. The way that the new prop is so  light is because the engine is so smooth that Jan was able to work with Sensi  for custom blades, and Quinti for a hub. I have not assembled the prop yet, but  the blades with the nickel leading edges, and the 14" spinner looks so sweet  just sitting there, I should have pics by the weekend of it all together and the  initial fit of the cowl done by then.

 Dan

 N289DT  RV10E



   From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of  GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com

Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:46  PM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: RE:  Eggenfellner delivered.

 

 What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's  CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with?  I  would have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but  slow down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd  guess the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total  weight with hardware etc would be higher?  Correct or incorrect?

  

 Patrick 



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
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Posted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:44 am Post subject: Eggenfellner delivered.

Come on, Dan!  Let’s get some pictures before you get it done.  Just a little teaser?  

   

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Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Lloyd, Daniel R.

 Sent: Thursday, May 17, 2007 9:15 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.  

  

   

In correct, the prop weighs36-38Lbs, The MT 3 blade weighs 42, and the Hartzell two blade weighs 60+. We weighed each when I was there last summer. The way that the new prop is so light is because the engine is so smooth that Jan was able to work with Sensi for custom blades, and Quinti for a hub. I have not assembled the prop yet, but the blades with the nickel leading edges, and the 14" spinner looks so sweet just sitting there, I should have pics by the weekend of it all together and the initial fit of the cowl done by then.  

Dan  

N289DT RV10E  

       

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of GRANSCOTT(at)aol.com

 Sent: Wednesday, May 16, 2007 6:46 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RE: Eggenfellner delivered.    

What does the 4 blade weight and what effect does it have on the aircraft's CG since it seems that the 10 is slightly forward CG to begin with?  I would have thought that a 4 blade would probably increase climb, smoothness but slow down your cruise speed and add the weight of the additional blade...I'd guess the 4 blades are shorter than a 2 or 3 blade set up but suspect the total weight with hardware etc would be higher?  Correct or incorrect?  

    

   

    

Patrick   

  



 

         

  

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