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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:30 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

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Many thanks to Larry Mac for measuring the space between his panel and firewall for me.
Recent posts on numerous lists have insinuated that there wasn't enough room to mount a Dynon in a Zenith with a header tank. Using Larry's numbers, worst case scenario is I have 5-3/8" to work with. According to the Dynon website, a D-100 EFIS is 4.51" deep. Should be doable.
Thoughts? Excuse me, from Dynon owners, not speculators.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Bill,

My Dynon EMS-D10 is only 4 1/2" deep; but when you attach the 37-pin D-sub connector and room to curl the wiring, it requires around 10".

Jay in Dallas

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Many thanks to Larry Mac for measuring the space between his panel and firewall for me.
Recent posts on numerous lists have insinuated that there wasn't enough room to mount a Dynon in a Zenith with a header tank. Using Larry's numbers, worst case scenario is I have 5-3/8" to work with. According to the Dynon website, a D-100 EFIS is 4.51" deep. Should be doable.
Thoughts? Excuse me, from Dynon owners, not speculators.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa



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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 3:38 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

With my ASF units the chasis depth is only part of the equation. I am advised by the website info that the unit is 5.5" in depth plus connectors. They do not estimate the depth of the plug and the radius of wire that exits the plug (in a forward direction). My guess is that will take about 3 additional inches. Check Dynon's website or call their customer support before making any concrete plans.

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Many thanks to Larry Mac for measuring the space between his panel and firewall for me.
Recent posts on numerous lists have insinuated that there wasn't enough room to mount a Dynon in a Zenith with a header tank. Using Larry's numbers, worst case scenario is I have 5-3/8" to work with. According to the Dynon website, a D-100 EFIS is 4.51" deep. Should be doable.
Thoughts? Excuse me, from Dynon owners, not speculators.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:06 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

5-1/2" for the connector and wiring?? Wow, am I screwed!
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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

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and room to curl the wiring, it requires around 10".Also don't forget the tubing for pitot, AOA, and static. It might or might notbe an issue see pic at http://www.701builder.com/electrical10.htm go downto the 9th pic on this page.Brian UnruhLong Island, NYwww.701builder.com


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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:33 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

There are right angle hoods for "D" connectors. With the connector and hood
I would estimate the total depth to be well under 2 inched. A typical
datasheet is attached. Digikey sells these for $4.29. But if you need more
than 25 pins you will need a different family of hoods (see second
datasheet).

For the pitot/static lines you could add right-angle unions.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Take a look at this diagram: www.dynonavionics.com/downloads/EFIS%20D100.PDF

I think the depth you have to worry about is 4.15". The distance from the forward face of the cage to the rear-facing surface of the D connector looks to be 4.15.

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PostPosted: Tue May 15, 2007 8:06 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Bill,

This sounds encouraging for you. Can you move the installation out a bit
with a separate "shock" panel?

Gary Boothe
Cool, CA
601 HDSTD, WW Conversion 90% done,
Tail done, wings done, working on c-section

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 1:32 am    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Bill,

I am building an XL with the Dynon D100 and D120 in the panel. I have just been out to measure the distances and the D120, with the Dynon-supplied harness needs 7 inches behind the panel, that's allowing for a reasonably tight bend in the cables. If you used a hood with the right-angle outlet, you could safely reduce that by about 1 inch.

The D100 takes about an inch less again, as it only has a 25-pin connector and far fewer wires connected to it, so it can be bent a bit tighter.


Dave Johnson

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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:33 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Gary-
Last resort. It would be easy to simply angle the EFIS to face the left
seat, but then the guy in the right seat is screwed. I'll have to see what I
see when the blank panel is in place.
Larry said that you shouldn't move the whole panel back because people
6'3" and over keep bonking his switched with their knees. I thought, no big
deal, I'm 5'-10" and my wife is 5'-3". Then I remembered my 6'-3" son, who
has first dibs on a ride once my hours are flown off.
So you don't burn up a batch of time figuring out the Xs and the Ys of
the Mendelevian theory, he's adopted. Still the only son I have.
Bill Naumuk
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:45 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Brian-
Small world. I was born and raised in Bethpage, and my father was a managing engineer for the landing gear division of Grumman. Sad what's happened to one of the great aviation think tanks in world history.
One of my employees was Gabby Gabrewski's nephew, and I had no idea Gabby moved a couple of blocks away from where I grew up once Republic bit the dust and he went to Grumman.
I could cry.
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Dynon Installation Reply with quote

All-
Thanks much for the valued input. This is the way the list should work!
Bill Naumuk
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PostPosted: Wed May 16, 2007 8:46 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Bill,
I was born and raised in Farmingdale, my mom used to work for Grumman making wiring harnesses for the F-14. I left L.I. in 2000 and moved to Marathon,NY and I don't miss L.I. one bit. Got my flight training at Republic Airport, when I was able to solo, I used to go out to Block Island for those $100.00 hamburgers. My In-Laws used to live in Bethpage.

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Small world. I was born and raised in Bethpage, and my father was a managing engineer for the landing gear division of Grumman. Sad what's happened to one of the great aviation think tanks in world history.
One of my employees was Gabby Gabrewski's nephew, and I had no idea Gabby moved a couple of blocks away from where I grew up once Republic bit the dust and he went to Grumman.
I could cry.
Bill Naumuk
HDS Fuse/Corvair
Townville, Pa
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PostPosted: Thu May 17, 2007 5:39 pm    Post subject: Dynon installation Reply with quote

Bob-
My point exactly. I left in 1968 when Grumman and aviation were the hub of the universe. Everyone's moms and dads were either engineers or highly skilled tradespeople. Aviation legends were walking the street. Alan Shepard and Rusty Schweickart both were over to our house. Fred Herman (One of the test astronauts who figured out how to fix the filtration system on Apollo 13) was the guy who supervised (Suffered through) my first take-off at the age of 12. Cripes, Republic was cranking out the F-104 and F-105 where you learned to fly when I was there!!
When my brother and I were back in 1999, all that was left of Grumman was a piece of Plant 1 on South Oyster Bay Road, which was being used as a library for the company history. Republic had been downgraded to a GA field.
You had to be there in the glory days. Don't blame you for not missing the down times. Once again, I could cry.
P.S. Have flight pictures of Block Island from a C-172A.
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