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andynfultz(at)bellsouth.n
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PostPosted: Sat May 19, 2007 8:13 pm    Post subject: Brake Plumbing Reply with quote
I'm about to start running the plumbing for my brakes. I have the Matco
MC-5 (I think) master cylinders and wheel cylinders. I will run from the
mstr cyl to the gun drilled Grove gear and then to the wheel cyl. I'm
debating running as much aluminum (1/8" O.D.)as i can with flex at the mstr
and wheel cyls. Is it worth the trouble or should I just run flex line from
the mstr to the gear and not worry about the aluminum and additional
connections required? I do want the most effective brakes I can have. I
know that the Matcos are already questionable and I plan to install the
upgrade kits in them. Thanks guys.

Andy Fultz
AVID Extended Speedwing
Stratus EA-81
Mississippi

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szakreski(at)shaw.ca
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Brake Plumbing Reply with quote
Andy
The advantage of the flex lines is you can see if you have an air bubble.
My installation is 100% stock Matco, (1997 vintage) with gun drilled Grove
gear and like I said previously, I can stand the aircraft on it's nose.
There may be differences between the Matco brakes I received with the kit
and earlier models, which may account for some people claiming poorer
braking performance. If you have a newer kit, I would install it by the
book. You will be happy with it.

SteveZ
Calgary
IV/NSI/CAP

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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Brake Plumbing Reply with quote
Andy,

On the Lancair list some times back there was a rather heated discussion on
the brake line issue - Nylaflow vs very expensive metal braied lines. After
lots of reading amd some rather pointed name calling, my friend Brad called
Lancair and they told him there has never been a problem with the Nylaflow
if installed correctly. I have the original lines in gun drillled aluminum
gear legs.

Lowell Fitt
Cameron Park, CA
Model IV-1200 R-912 UL Warp
1998 850 hrs.

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trevorkebb(at)earthlink.n
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PostPosted: Sun May 20, 2007 1:07 pm    Post subject: Brake Plumbing Reply with quote
Just a thought. I have the original Matco system on my Model IV, circa 1991,
using the MC-1 master cylinders and cast calipers, both of which are no
longer in production.

There has never been any lack of braking power whatsoever. None. They will
hold during a full power runup with no creep, though they are kinda
cheezy-looking units. The newer units are much, much nicer.

That said, brand new, out-of-the-box, one of the master cylinders would not
pressurize and had to be sent back to Matco. And this spring both master
cylinders were bleeding pressure off very slowly or not at all after
braking, causing the brakes to drag hideously, and had to be sent to Matco
for rebuilding. It cost very little.

The fellow having problems with his Matco brakes could do worse than just
pulling the master cylinders and sending them off to Matco (good folks,
quick turnaround) to be checked. The problem could easily be there.

Robert Beck

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Andy
The advantage of the flex lines is you can see if you have an air bubble.
My installation is 100% stock Matco, (1997 vintage) with gun drilled Grove
gear and like I said previously, I can stand the aircraft on it's nose.
There may be differences between the Matco brakes I received with the kit
and earlier models, which may account for some people claiming poorer
braking performance. If you have a newer kit, I would install it by the
book. You will be happy with it.

SteveZ
Calgary
IV/NSI/CAP


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