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tdawson-townsend(at)auror
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 5:02 am Post subject: Traffic

To go with your fancy panel, don't forget to get an active traffic

system, so you don't get whacked by somebody while you're both

heads-down looking at the pretty HITS displays.



 



Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton

displays, amongst others.



 



Jeez, and I don't even work there anymore!



 



P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a

headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . .

jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:04 am Post subject: Traffic

I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but isn’t that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but not nearly as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it distracting seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked to a number of pilots who don’t want to know about traffic.  ATC will tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, don’t matter.  

   

This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are available and how helpful they are.  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

        

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:02 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Traffic  

  

   

   

To go with your fancy panel, don’t forget to get an active traffic system, so you don’t get whacked by somebody while you’re both heads-down looking at the pretty HITS displays.  

   

Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton displays, amongst others.  

   

Jeez, and I don’t even work there anymore!  

   

P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . . .  

   

Cheers,  

   

TDT  

   

   

Tim Dawson-Townsend  

Aurora Flight Sciences  

tdt(at)aurora.aero  

617-401-2522  

   

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2879

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Traffic

Please don't take this personally Jesse, it's not meant that way.



That is one of the most laughable things I've heard for a while.

Truly amazingly laughable....especially in the days where the FAA

is contemplating user fees for services.  You would be surprised

at how many planes there are cruising around underneath class B

airspace and how close the come to eachother...and often haven't

a clue.  I have traffic on the PFD and MFD, which is about

as cool as it gets for display, but it's already been a potential

bacon saver a few times.  Sure, the chance of an actual collission

isn't necessarily that great under the "big sky" theory, but

near misses can be pretty spooky as well.



The thing that TIS/TCAS and that sort of thing gives you is the

ability to give you a bearing, distance, altitude, and whether

or not the traffic is climbing or descending, so you know where

you need to be looking.  Even with TIS, you sometimes have a hard

time picking out traffic at your altitude or slightly lower

because of visual ground clutter.  In just that one respect that

you mention, TIS can add the distraction because if you see it

on the scope you may tend to get excited trying to spot it

visually....so it gives you a little adrenaline at times.  But

saying that they'd rather not have it because of that would be like

saying you'd rather not have the MRI if you've been having

neurological issues, because it might tell you that you have

a brain tumor.



The most laughable part about the entire thing though was that

somehow ATC will tell you about the ones that matter.  The problem

is, that's only true for IFR flight.  Even on Flight Following

they don't always have time to provide those services.  But,

I spend a ton of time on some flights where I'm VFR only, and

TIS is very valuable around the areas by me like MSP, MSN, ORD,

and so on.  Had a callout last week where a chopper was heading

head-on towards me as I was on downwind and it called that one

out.  Having it on screen was a nice tip off to look for it.



Whether you put it on the 496, 430, 530, 480, Chelton, or

whoever supports it, it's a pretty cheap option if you

go with a GTX-330.  But as TDT mentioned, it would be

better yet with something more active than TIS.  That said,

not only is it a shame that TIS may be life-limited, but I'm

sure glad I bought it because I have many many years to enjoy

it yet before it's gone...and it's already saved me.  One of

the more memorable saves was in evening haze as I was nearing

Dunnellon, FL for fuel, BTW.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Jesse Saint wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but 

 isn’t that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but 

 not nearly as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it 

 distracting seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked 

 to a number of pilots who don’t want to know about traffic.  ATC will 

 tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, don’t matter.

 

  

 

 This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are 

 available and how helpful they are.

mritter509(at)msn.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 6:39 am Post subject: Traffic

Jesse,



I couldn't disagree more.  Having traffic on the CMX 200 and 430 is a huge 

help in the "see and avoid" environment of uncontrolled airports and VFR 

local flights without flight following.  The value of knowing which way to 

look for traffic should not be underestimated - especially on hazy low 

visibility days.



Mark

N410MR





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		  From: "Jesse Saint" <jesse(at)saintaviation.com>

Reply-To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

To: <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

Subject: RE: Traffic

Date: Fri, 25 May 2007 10:02:57 -0400



I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but isn't

that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but not nearly

as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it distracting

seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked to a number of

pilots who don't want to know about traffic.  ATC will tell you about the

ones that matter, but the others, well, don't matter.



This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are available

and how helpful they are.



Jesse Saint



Saint Aviation, Inc.



jesse(at)saintaviation.com



www.saintaviation.com



Cell: 352-427-0285



Fax: 815-377-3694



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of

tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero

Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:02 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Traffic



To go with your fancy panel, don't forget to get an active traffic system,

so you don't get whacked by somebody while you're both heads-down looking 

at

the pretty HITS displays.



Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton displays,

amongst others.



Jeez, and I don't even work there anymore!



P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a

headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . . .



Cheers,



TDT



Tim Dawson-Townsend



Aurora Flight Sciences



tdt(at)aurora.aero



617-401-2522


	


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Jack.Phillips(at)cardinal
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: Traffic

I agree with you Mark.  I'll never forget the time I was on an IFR

flight plan (in VMC) and had a Bonanza whiz below me, on an almost

reciprocal heading about 100' below me.  He was close enough I could

tell what color hair he had (actually, he was balding).  No warning

whatever from ATC.  I called and told Washington Center that a Bonanza

had narrowly missed me and the controller said "...uh, traffic no

factor."  No fooling.  He was already past me when I told ATC about him.



Don't rely on ATC to tell you about traffic.  Just because they say

"radar contact" does not mean you are off the hook for looking for

traffic.  Remember the old saying "If the pilot screws up, the pilot

dies.  If ATC screws up, the pilot dies."



Jack Phillips

Planning to avoid building and put some time on the RV-4 this weekend



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jesse(at)saintaviation.co
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:01 am Post subject: Traffic

Both responses so far are exactly what I was looking for.  Thanks.



Do not archive



Jesse Saint

Saint Aviation, Inc.

jesse(at)saintaviation.com

www.saintaviation.com

Cell: 352-427-0285

Fax: 815-377-3694



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rvbuilder(at)sausen.net
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:15 am Post subject: Traffic

Jesse, I would suggest you acquire a better understanding on what exactly ATC is required to provide under different conditions and flight rules.  Might I suggest a pilot’s license as a starting point.  Bottom line is don’t EVER trust that ATC is 100% keeping you out of harm’s way.  The PIC has ultimate responsibility for safety of flight, including rejecting vectors if ATC decides to drive you into another aircraft and your MARK1 eyeballs or onboard equipment tell you it’s a bad idea.  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:03 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: Traffic  

  

  

   

I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but isn’t that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but not nearly as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it distracting seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked to a number of pilots who don’t want to know about traffic.  ATC will tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, don’t matter.  

   

This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are available and how helpful they are.  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

          

  

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:02 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Traffic  

  

   

   

To go with your fancy panel, don’t forget to get an active traffic system, so you don’t get whacked by somebody while you’re both heads-down looking at the pretty HITS displays.  

   

Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton displays, amongst others.  

   

Jeez, and I don’t even work there anymore!  

   

P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . . .  

   

Cheers,  

   

TDT  

   

   

Tim Dawson-Townsend  

Aurora Flight Sciences  

tdt(at)aurora.aero  

617-401-2522  

   

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:22 am Post subject: Traffic

In a message dated 5/25/2007 10:06:39 AM Eastern Daylight Time, 

jesse(at)saintaviation.com writes:



ATC will tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, donâ€™t 

matter.



Jesse, as far as I know traffic is advisory only unless you are in positive 

control zones...class A and Class B airspaces...all the other air space is just 

advisory and not control...time permitting, only.

 

Patrick



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Ray.R.Doerr(at)sprint.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:42 am Post subject: Traffic

I love the TIS traffic on my 430 as well, but everyone just needs to remember it only works in the vicinity (approximately 50 nm radius) of some Class B and C airspace.  As the FAA upgrades some of these ASR-9 radar sites to ASR-11, TIS will no longer be available.  This upsets me greatly because in any other business you would not do an upgrade if you were going to loose an important feature like TIS.

	Also you can never trust TIS for the whole picture in the sky because planes like Champs with no transponder (Mode A or C) will not show up on your TIS screen.  This is why I like to fly at 10,500 or 11,500 in hopes that not many non transponder airplanes are flying at these heights.





Thank You

Ray Doerr

40250

N519RV



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LloydDR(at)wernerco.com
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 7:46 am Post subject: Traffic

ATC is not there for traffic avoidance for VFR pilots, only as work load

permits, or basically when they feel like it. Even when flying on an IFR

flight plan in VFR conditions, it is still primarily the PIC's

responsibility to visually scan and act on collision avoidance. In other

words ATC is there to help, but as PIC you are still ultimately

responsible. There has been many times that traffic could not be seen

until to late, think high wing versus low wing in the traffic pattern.

It is a reality, and especially for the North East coast people the

traffic corridor is highly congested and any tool that can aid in the

detection and avoidance of traffic would be a great add to the

situational awareness, I just wish I could afford the Avidyne solution

or others for that matter.

Dan

N289DT RV10E 



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From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 10:03 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Traffic



I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but

isn't that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but

not nearly as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it

distracting seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked

to a number of pilots who don't want to know about traffic.  ATC will

tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, don't matter.



 



This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are

available and how helpful they are.



 



Jesse Saint



Saint Aviation, Inc.



jesse(at)saintaviation.com



www.saintaviation.com



Cell: 352-427-0285



Fax: 815-377-3694



  _____  



From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com

[mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of

tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero

Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:02 AM

To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Traffic



 



 



To go with your fancy panel, don't forget to get an active traffic

system, so you don't get whacked by somebody while you're both

heads-down looking at the pretty HITS displays.



 



Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton

displays, amongst others.



 



Jeez, and I don't even work there anymore!



 



P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a

headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . .

scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.co
Guest

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:15 am Post subject: Traffic

Not much I can add.  I am always too late on these responses.  I need to plug my brain into this forum like others have.  

  

 Seriously, TIS is totally awesome, even around Salt Lake where I don't get alot of coverage.  But you get coverage typically when you need it.  It is so nice to come home from a trip and look down at the screen and before Salt Lake Approach even tells me anything, I can see how many planes are in the pattern at my home airport which is right next to Class B airspace.  Because of the Garmin 330, lately I don't call approach because I can see all the planes as good as he can which was the only reason why I called in when I was getting close and half the time when I do call in they only give you traffic warnings when they are within 500 feet of yourself it seems.  Of course the best way to go is to be IFR or talking to approach control or flight following while using the traffic system.  I have both the 330 and the TrafficScope VRX system which I also  like.  I'd like to upgrade to the Zaon XRX.  When my TIS isn't working I watch that close and when it tells me about traffic that is close I can normally find them.  It all helps and is not distracting. One thing really nice about today's EFIS systems is the ability look out the window more.  You would think you be looking inside more with all that equipment but on the ground you input your flight plan so that as you are flying you actually look outside more because you are not having to worry about airspace violations and you really don't have to monitor the engine because it will talk to you if anything gets in the yellow or red depending on how you have it set up.  

 

Scott Schmidt

scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com  



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rtitsworth

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Detroit, Mi

Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 8:40 am Post subject: Traffic

I have an XRX interfaced to a 496 (paints graphical traffic on the 496 screen).  The 496 accepts data from the XRX as if the XRX was a TIS GTX330 (same data/message format?).  The XRX isn’t perfect (passive device), but It does identify traffic (direction, altitude, and inferred distance) and interface with the 496.  

   

I’d be interested if anyone has experimented hooking the rs232 output from an XRX to a panel mounted MFD (in place of a GTX330) and if/how it works.  It seems like it would be a poor man’s (passive) Ryan.  

   

Rick  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Scott Schmidt

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 12:15 PM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: RV10-List: Traffic  

  

       

Not much I can add.  I am always too late on these responses.  I need to plug my brain into this forum like others have.    

    

   

    

Seriously, TIS is totally awesome, even around Salt Lake where I don't get alot of coverage.  But you get coverage typically when you need it.  It is so nice to come home from a trip and look down at the screen and before Salt Lake Approach even tells me anything, I can see how many planes are in the pattern at my home airport which is right next to Class B airspace.  Because of the Garmin 330, lately I don't call approach because I can see all the planes as good as he can which was the only reason why I called in when I was getting close and half the time when I do call in they only give you traffic warnings when they are within 500 feet of yourself it seems.  Of course the best way to go is to be IFR or talking to approach control or flight following while using the traffic system.  I have both the 330 and the TrafficScope VRX system which I also like.  I'd like to upgrade to the Zaon XRX.  When my TIS isn't working I watch that close and when it tells me about traffic that is close I can normally find them.  It all helps and is not distracting. One thing really nice about today's EFIS systems is the ability look out the window more.  You would think you be looking inside more with all that equipment but on the ground you input your flight plan so that as you are flying you actually look outside more because you are not having to worry about airspace violations and you really don't have to monitor the engine because it will talk to you if anything gets in the yellow or red depending on how you have it set up.  

    

  

Scott Schmidt

 scottmschmidt(at)yahoo.com     

     

----- Original Message ----

 From: RV Builder (Michael Sausen) <rvbuilder(at)sausen.net>

 To: "rv10-list(at)matronics.com" <rv10-list(at)matronics.com>

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 8:14:36 AM

 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Traffic    

  Jesse, I would suggest you acquire a better understanding on what exactly ATC is required to provide under different conditions and flight rules.  Might I suggest a pilot¢s license as a starting point.  Bottom line is don¢t EVER trust that ATC is 100% keeping you out of harm¢s way.  The PIC has ultimate responsibility for safety of flight, including rejecting vectors if ATC decides to drive you into another aircraft and your MARK1 eyeballs or onboard equipment tell you it¢s a bad idea.  

   

Michael Sausen  

-10 #352 Limbo  

       

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Jesse Saint

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:03 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Traffic  

  

  

   

I understand that it would be nice having traffic in the panel, but isn¢t that what ATC is there for?  They can give you weather info, but not nearly as well as seeing it in color on your moving map, but is it distracting seeing all of the planes that are around you?  I have talked to a number of pilots who don¢t want to know about traffic.  ATC will tell you about the ones that matter, but the others, well, don¢t matter.  

   

This may prompt a nice discussion about what traffic options are available and how helpful they are.  

     

Jesse Saint  

Saint Aviation, Inc.  

jesse(at)saintaviation.com (jesse(at)saintaviation.com)  

www.saintaviation.com  

Cell: 352-427-0285  

Fax: 815-377-3694  

          

  

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of tdawson-townsend(at)aurora.aero

 Sent: Friday, May 25, 2007 9:02 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RV10-List: Traffic  

  

   

   

To go with your fancy panel, don¢t forget to get an active traffic system, so you don¢t get whacked by somebody while you¢re both heads-down looking at the pretty HITS displays.  

   

Avidyne TAS system will display on Garmin, Avidyne, and Chelton displays, amongst others.  

   

Jeez, and I don¢t even work there anymore!  

   

P.S.  Your life will be easier if you consider this before you install a headliner, since the top antenna needs a foil ground plane installed . . .  

   

Cheers,  

   

TDT  

   

   

Tim Dawson-Townsend  

Aurora Flight Sciences  

tdt(at)aurora.aero  

617-401-2522  

   

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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:39 am Post subject: Traffic

I am a retired SLC approach controller and currently

flying for a corporation. Do NOT count on traffic from

any controller anywhere whether you are IFR or

VFR!(IMHO) It is not required. Safety alerts are

required to be issued by controllers but the

parameters for what constitutes a safety alert are not

specified. Also the controller has to see the conflict

before traffic can be issued, controllers are human

and don't see or even understand every conflict.



As for TCAS or equivalent type displays, they are a

very valuable tool in the cockpit! you just need to

understand the limitations of you system.



Steve 40212

--- Jesse Saint <jesse(at)saintaviation.com> wrote:



 	  Quote: 	
		   I understand that it would be nice having traffic in

 the panel, but isn't

 that what ATC is there for?  


	




 

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poneill(at)irealms.com
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Posted: Fri May 25, 2007 10:59 pm Post subject: Traffic

Has anyone had any experience with the passive Monroy or ProxAlert systems?



 

I've been looking at the passive systems as a possible supplement to 330 TIS

outside of TIS service areas. I think the price of the Avidyne's or L3's can

probably be better spent elsewhere.

 

I've seen good remarks on the Zaon XRX, but wanted to find a panel mounted

solution rather than portable. I really don't want to park a unit atop the

glareshield.  With the RS232 output, the XRX would be the one to get if

there are panel mount options.  They allude that someday they may offer such

a mounting option.  From their web site: 

 

"Options are or may soon be available for installing XRX into the panel with

significant reconfiguration of the hardware."  ...Article Id: 30 - Version:

1 - Created: 05-12-2006:

 

http://www.zaonflight.com/component/option,com_kb/page,articles/articleid,30

/Itemid,1/

 

But a year later the only panel mount accessory they offer on their site is

for the MRX.

 

Any 3rd parties offering improved mounting options for the XRX?

 

Best Regards,

Patrick

 

 

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rtitsworth

Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 76
Location: Detroit, Mi

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 5:00 am Post subject: Traffic

Zaon had a panel mount prototype at their booth at SNF.  Perhaps ready by OSH???  

   

I’m building a Lancair ES (lurking here) and am currently planning on recessing the XRX into the top of the fiberglass glareshield, so it barely sticks up, but still has unobstructed visibility.  The XRX display is disabled when it is in garmin comm (rs232) mode so there is nothing to see anyway.  

         

  

From: owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv10-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Patrick ONeill

 Sent: Saturday, May 26, 2007 3:04 AM

 To: rv10-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: RE: RV10-List: Traffic  

  

     

Has anyone had any experience with the passive Monroy or ProxAlert systems?    

    

   

    

I've been looking at the passive systems as a possible supplement to 330 TIS outside of TIS service areas. I think the price of the Avidyne's or L3's can probably be better spent elsewhere.  

    

   

    

I've seen good remarks on the Zaon XRX, but wanted to find a panel mounted solution rather than portable. I really don't want to park a unit atop the glareshield.  With the RS232 output, the XRX would be the one to get if there are panel mount options.  They allude that someday they may offer such a mounting option.  From their web site:   

    

   

    

"Options are or may soon be available for installing XRX into the panel with significant reconfiguration of the hardware."  ...Article Id: 30 - Version: 1 - Created: 05-12-2006:  

    

   

    

http://www.zaonflight.com/component/option,com_kb/page,articles/articleid,30/Itemid,1/  

    

   

    

But a year later the only panel mount accessory they offer on their site is for the MRX.  

    

   

    

Any 3rd parties offering improved mounting options for the XRX?  

    

   

    

Best Regards,  

    

Patrick  

    

   

    

   

    

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Joined: 16 Jan 2006
Posts: 415
Location: Medford, NJ

Posted: Sat May 26, 2007 11:46 am Post subject: Re: Traffic

The Zaon remote mount at S&F had a empty slot in the box fo an ADS B receiver. The install was very similar to the Avadyne with a transponder on top and bottom.  It sure would be nice if it would be able to interface with my Chelton. 



Larry

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