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PostPosted: Wed Jun 20, 2007 2:38 pm    Post subject: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

Hi! /all
From where I’m standing having not flown my own a/c for over a year and nearly got my new 914 installed it looks like there’s lots of “headless chickens” running round.
I recall a certain statement from the past which went something like …..”knee jerk” !
I don’t believe that the amount of slop between Williams Tail planes has been reported yet, from the annual inspection he had only a matter of about an hour earlier to his accident. Perhaps this would be a useful base line to consider first ? BTW I hadn’t sold him any Torque Tube clamps.

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Bob Harrison G-PTAG now been grounded for 13 months and counting !

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 3:05 am    Post subject: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

A certain PFA inspector approved the permit renewal on my aircraft, 2 weeks before I bought it, when it had 1 inch of play at the tailplane trailing edges. The plane flew just fine, apparently, with no sign of flutter, but fortunately my own inspector was quick to spot the fault and insist that I sorted it before further flight. 
You can draw your own conclusions about whether a recent annual guarantees that the backlash is within limits, or indeed has been measured. 

Don't know, however, if it is fair to generalise about the lack of flutter - maybe an inch of backlash combined with ANO factors is what can start a flutter???

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Hi! /all
From where I’m standing having not flown my own a/c for over a year and nearly got my new 914 installed it looks like there’s lots of “headless chickens” running round.
I recall a certain statement from the past which went something like …..”knee jerk” !
I don’t believe that the amount of slop between Williams Tail planes has been reported yet, from the annual inspection he had only a matter of about an hour earlier to his accident. Perhaps this would be a useful base line to consider first ?  BTW I hadn’t sold him any Torque Tube clamps.
 
Regards
Bob Harrison G-PTAG  now been grounded for 13 months and counting !
 
Do not archive.
 
Robt.C.Harrison
 
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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:08 am    Post subject: Re: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

I don't think I had heard that there was a major inspection on the aircraft
immediately before the crash. Is it then not possible that the cause of the
mishap was the inspection, not flutter. My inspections tend to disturb hoses
and fittings, etc. and I try to be absolutely religious about restoring them
to baseline. Perhaps something might have been left untightened. It has
been know to happen - a good reason to the let the responsible mechanic
take the first flight after an annual!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 5:40 am    Post subject: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

Hi Folks,

Try this link if you have a strong constitution. Go to
http://forums.flyer.co.uk/viewtopic.php?t=33580

Oh and if the person concerned would like some help with his or her problem then please get in touch with me in confidence at inspector(at)europaclub.org.uk (inspector(at)europaclub.org.uk).

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 6:37 am    Post subject: Re: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

Pete,

The aforementioned link is either a joke or a
serious run for the Darwin Award of 2007.

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 7:11 am    Post subject: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

I am assured it is not a joke. I don't suppose they would even know what
the Darwin award was for!!!

Pete

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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 9:44 am    Post subject: Re: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

All the better then to remove their DNA from the gene pool

And Now, back to Flight!


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PostPosted: Thu Jun 21, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Mods...Mods...Mods..! Reply with quote

<<...."knee jerk....">>
But that is the process by which the PFA are able to negotiate and sustain our airworthiness "freedoms" (or, depending on your perspective, a relaxation from heavy-handed regulation).

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