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algate(at)attglobal.net
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Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:25 am Post subject: Cabin Heat

I purchased the small cabin heater from Skystar and although it takes a bit

of the chill off your toes it does almost nothing to heat the cabin at -20

degC OAT. Dave Fisher (another Kitfox pilot) told me about his setup and it

works great.



I used a small Tupperware container (about 6" x 3") and drilled cut 2 x

1-1/2" holes in the bottom and then used two x plastic ties to strap it the

rear of my engine rad. From the two holes I ran two lengths of plastic shed

Vac hose up through the bungee openings into the cabin.



The heated air pumps out under your knees and brings the air temp up in the

cab about 20 degC. For even more heat he suggested a simple muffler heater

which ducts air into the cab at your feet and last weekend at -12 deg OAT it

registered + 15 in the Cabin.



GaryA

Lite2/582

wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 10:23 am Post subject: Re: Cabin Heat

Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the mufler springs a leak.



How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you step out of the cabin.

algate(at)attglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:03 am Post subject: Cabin Heat

Winter flying in Canada requires masking off the front of the Rad to reduce

cooling so this actually helps the situation. You wouldn't fly far in summer

with heater going as you would be uncomfortable to notice it.



GaryA



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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:58 am Post subject: Cabin Heat

List



One quick question.



Who is Wingnut?  Or are we not supposed to know, or are we just supposed to 

not care?



I guess that was three questions, sorry.



Lowell



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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 12:32 pm Post subject: Re: Cabin Heat

I am wingnut. wingnut am I.



Was I supposed to make a formal introduction before I posted? Do I need credentials? 



I'm a guy who recently purchased a kitfox and joined the kitfox list. I fly N824KF out of 34A (Laurens, SC).  I have two kids, my wife likes horses, I wear 8 1/2 triple wides (yes I have duck feet). Some day soon, I'll have my very own 1500 ft grass strip behind my house and I think it would be cool if other airplanes came to visit (they don't even have to be Kitfoxes).

lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 2:46 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

Your name.



Most people sign their posts with their name.  For some reason I like to 

know who is posting.  Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names 

of my friends.  If your name  really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking



I checked the N# registry - no Wingnuts there.



Lowell



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avidsid(at)yahoo.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 3:24 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

The standard factory cabin heat box supplied with the Avid comes with a shroud to mount behind one of the 582 cheek radiators and scat hosing to connect to the heater box mounted on the firewall.  As the heater is opened up more, it dumps less and less out to the airflow through the cowling....less heat needed, more radiator heated air is dumped out the box and back into the cowling cooling flow..............simple, effective, and cheap, and no combustion fumes to worry about.  Either setting, or something inbetween, allows full flow through the radiator for proper cooling.........

  Sid

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wingnut <wingnut(at)spamarrest.com> wrote:

  



Putting something behind the radiator will disrupt the airflow and reduce its effectiveness. Might not be a big deal in the winter but if you forget to take remove it during the summer, you could over heat your motor. A shroud sounds safer (isn't that what GA airplanes with air cooled motors use?) but I'd want a carbon monoxide detector in the cabin in case the mufler springs a leak.



How about one of those electric jump suits that mountain climbers wear? Don't have to mod your airplane and it will still keep you warm when you step out of the cabin.





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wingnut

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 356

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:03 pm Post subject: Re: Cabin Heat

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		  Most people sign their posts with their name. For some reason I like to know who is posting. Call me old fashioned but I like to know all the names of my friends. If your name really is Wingnut, then I apologize for asking 	




OK. You're old fashoned .  The reason that Ken's name is still in the FAA database is that I've only recently purchased the airplane from him (Great guy BTW: He delivered my airplane accross the country for nothing but a return ticket home). Wingnut is just a login name. Everyone I see here uses an alias for that. If knowing my name makes you feel better then here you go.



Luis Rodriguez



Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we posted on the same forum. To be honest, I'm kind of surprised and finding it hard to not be defensive... But, for the sake of friendship, I'm going to take your reasons at face value and throw in my address to boot:



244 Boyd Rd.

Laurens, SC 29360



Oh, and my birth day is in two days. Can I expect a card ?

rdmac(at)swbell.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:26 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

I'm a wingnut too Luis, but I prefer Roger ......roger that....

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Brett Walmsley

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 47
Location: Savannah, GA

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 4:51 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

Hey Lowell, you better send that card priority mail if you expect Luis to 

get it on his birthday. 

Too funny...



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lcfitt(at)sbcglobal.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:29 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

Thanks Louis,



I think you will find that we here in the KF list are a friendly bunch and 

we often respond with a Hi, (insert name) in the old fashioned way.



Lowell

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Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 4:18 am Post subject: Re: Welcome

 	  wingnut wrote: 	
		  I am wingnut. wingnut am I.



Was I supposed to make a formal introduction before I posted? Do I need credentials? 	




 Great username - Wingnut.  Wish I had thought of it first.  

 Hey, maybe Wingnut2?  Naahh...



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Rex
N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

tc9008(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 6:05 am Post subject: Cabin Heat

I'm in NC , glad to see someone close. I operate out of TDF in Roxboro, KItfox IV

Travis  

 

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MichaelGibbs(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 7:24 am Post subject: Cabin Heat

Wingnut sez:



 	  Quote: 	
		  Didn't meen to ruffle any feathers but I've been a citizen of the 

internet since before there was a world wide web and no one has ever 

asked me for my name before or suggested I was a friend because we 

posted on the same forum.


	


This is no ordinary internet forum, Wingnut.  These are real people 

being real in the real world, none of this anonymous cyber-reality 

practiced elsewhere.  Due to the nature and capabilities of our 

shared interest, many of them have met and know each other 

personally.  They are not friends by virtual of posting to a forum, 

they really are friends!  At a Kitfox (or Avid) fly-in, nobody says, 

"Hi, my name is quadmax."  Many do not have 'net alter-egos and a few 

probably don't even know what that means.



That said, it's a friendly and accepting group and you are most 

welcome.  Lowell may or may not send you a birthday card but either 

way don't start feeling defensive.  Before giving or receiving 

safety-critical information, isn't it important to know something 

about the source of that data?



I've met Lowell personally and I think you'd like him.  



Mike G.

N728KF

Glenn Horne

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 96

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 12:14 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

I think you are just a nut.

Glenn

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Rex Hefferan

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 147
Location: Olney Springs, Colorado USA "NOT a Kitpig"

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 2:53 pm Post subject: Cabin Heat

Which one of us? Or both? :-\

Rex

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Glenn Horne wrote:



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I think you are just a nut.

Glenn

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N740GP - M2/582
Colorado

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