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air.guerner(at)wanadoo.fr
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 8:57 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Hello all,

  

 I just received my monowheel speed kit.   I tried to remove the outrigger OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I  tried to remove the nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be  the nylon  has expanded with aging . Any suggestion ?   

  

  

Remi  Guerner<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"  /> 

F-PGKL, XS  S/N395 monowheel,  912S,  Airmaster, 510 hours   

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pete(at)lawless.info
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 9:44 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Remi  

   

No suggestions, but if you ever do get the kit to fit I would be very interested to know what your airspeed increases by.  

   

Regards  

   

Pete  

   

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nwcmc(at)tiscali.co.uk
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

If you get desperate try putting the whole leg in a freezer for a few hours and then locally heat the aluminium fittings with a hot air gun. As they conduct heat quicker they may expand sufficiently to become loose. 

Nigel Charles



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    Hello all,

  

 I just received my monowheel speed kit.  I tried to remove the outrigger OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I tried to remove the nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be  the nylon has expanded with aging . Any suggestion ?   

  

  

Remi Guerner<?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> 

F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel,  912S, Airmaster, 510 hours  

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grahamsingleton(at)btinte
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Remi

nylon absorbs up to 7% by weight of water so probably has swolen. You 

might try dehydrating it with silica gell?

Graham



Remi Guerner wrote:

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		   Hello all,

  

 I just received my monowheel speed kit.  I tried to remove the outrigger 

 OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I tried to remove the 

 nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be  the nylon has expanded with 

 aging . Any suggestion ?   

  

 

 Remi Guerner

nielskock(at)get2net.dk
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Remi.

 I encountered the same problem in a similar situation. Your  intellect will not serve you well

 here, you have to resort to brute force:

  

 Put a bolt fitting the axle holes of the fork through the 2  holes. The bolt must be long enough to extend 

 at least 3-4 centimeters either side of the wheel  fork.

 Then strike the bolt with many small strikes parallel to the  leg, on alternate sides of the fork,

  and you will see the fork moving  gradually off the leg. At least I did.

  

 Now, I have a problem:

 I've just put on a new mono-tyre, McReady Air-trac 8.00 x  6. pumped  to 15 psi.

 It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the  wheel leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple

 of fighting piglets.

 It is not only the pensive looks from stewardesses  and other impression-worthy groups connected to

 aviation that bothers me, when I pass them by, squealing  insanely, it is also the palpable temperature of the

 sides of the tyre after taxying to the hangar.

 Imagine the loss of face and money, if the squealing  progress comes to an abrupt halt with an almighty

  thunderclap from a burst inner tube  in front of an awe-struck crowd!

  

 Apart from parting with another 100 £ buying a 7.00 x 6 tyre,  is there any possibility of splaying the UC-leg 

 about one mm each side? I already have  untightened the central bolt through the hub a couple of threads.

 To no avail.

 Any suggestions?   

  

 Niels Kock

 OY-ODA

 Mono Classic

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asarangan(at)YAHOO.COM
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:33 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Nylon expands when it absorbs moisture. So you could try drying them

for a few days. However, I found that the nylon legs supplied with the

kit were slightly larger in diameter than the OR1 and Or3 sockets.  I

had to shave off on a lathe to get it to fit properly. If you forced

them in, it may be impossible to remove. The only alternative would be

to cut off the legs and drill out the nylon. I would try the drying

option first. 



--- Remi Guerner <air.guerner(at)wanadoo.fr> wrote:



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		   Hello all,

 

 I just received my monowheel speed kit.  I tried to remove the

 outrigger OR3 fork to install the fairings. No way. Then I tried to

 remove the nylon leg from OR1. Impossible. May be  the nylon has

 expanded with aging . Any suggestion ?   

 

 Remi Guerner

 

 F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel,  912S, Airmaster, 510 hours

grahamsingleton(at)btinte
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 3:47 pm Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Niels

those gear legs are not too difficult to bend. You could jack it out a 

few mm. then squeeze it back in th fiut the wheel with a block of wood 

where the tire touches to hold the gap at that point.

You, being a medical engineer should be able to silence those unhappy 

piglets !?;-0

Graham



Niels Kock wrote:

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		   It turns out that the tyre is in contact with the sides of the wheel 

 leg, emitting sgueals during taxy like a couple

 of fighting piglets.

 It is not only the pensive looks from stewardesses and other 

 impression-worthy groups connected to

 aviation that bothers me, when I pass them by, squealing insanely, it is 

 also the palpable temperature of the

 sides of the tyre after taxying to the hangar.

  

 Niels Kock

Troy Maynor

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 162

Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 6:16 pm Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

I had the same problem getting the nylon out to get the forks painted. I put them in the freezer. The next day they fell out when I picked them up.

Troy Maynor

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air.guerner(at)wanadoo.fr
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Posted: Wed Aug 08, 2007 11:45 pm Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Thank you Troy, but as I cannot remove the leg from the wing,  I have to find a freezer big enough to put the whole wing  in!

 Regards

 Remi

  

  

  

 

I had the same problem getting the nylon out to get the forks painted.  I put them

in the freezer. The next day they fell out when I picked them  up.

Troy Maynor



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n100rh(at)sbcglobal.net
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Posted: Thu Aug 09, 2007 7:50 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Rather than using a large freezer try using either ice or dry ice to 

cool the area.



Ralph



Remi Guerner wrote:

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		   Thank you Troy, but as I cannot remove the leg from the wing, I have 

 to find a freezer big enough to put the whole wing in!

 Regards

 Remi

  

  

  



 I had the same problem getting the nylon out to get the forks painted. 

 I put them

 in the freezer. The next day they fell out when I picked them up.

 Troy Maynor

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raimo.toivio(at)rwm.fi
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 8:12 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Hi  Remi,

  

 I had exactly similar  problem and solved it as follows:

  

 I made a vertical cut  by Dremel to the back side of the fairing.

 After it was possible  to stretch it enough to slide in over the fork.

 Before painting I  sealed the cutting by Sika mass

 and added a small  alumimium clip by two pop-rivet for extra strenght.

  

 Very easy, fast and  straightforward - so far no penalties att all.

 If necessary it is also  easy to remove now. 

  

 Be carefull - fairing  material is quite brittle.

  

 Hope this helps,  Raimo

  

 Raimo M W  Toivio

  

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 Hello all,      

 

      

I just received my monowheel    speed kit.  I tried to remove the outrigger OR3 fork to install the    fairings. No way. Then I tried to remove the nylon leg from    OR1. Impossible. May be  the nylon has expanded with aging . Any    suggestion ?   

      

 

      

Remi Guerner   

F-PGKL, XS S/N395 monowheel,     912S, Airmaster, 510 hours  

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air.guerner(at)wanadoo.fr
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Posted: Fri Aug 10, 2007 9:08 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Thanks to those who have provide advice. I finally  managed to remove those outrigger forks without damaging anything. Using a  powerful hair dryier, I heated the forks, trying to twist them at the same time  with a lever. After a few hours of cooling  at room temperature, they finally came out with a heavy twist and  pull.

 Remi

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acrojim(at)cfl.rr.com
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Posted: Sat Aug 11, 2007 1:09 pm Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Niels

  

 Try puting 25 or 30 psi in the tire.

  

  The original tire supplied with my kit was  also the old 800 x 6. I operate off a paved runway and the tires rubbed the  sides of the gear legs on landing. The higher pressure gave me a little extra  clearance between the gear leg and the tire. I replaced that tire with a 700 x6  6ply rating. It makes the a/c ground handling much better.

  

 Jim Brown

 N398JB

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nielskock(at)get2net.dk
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Posted: Sun Aug 12, 2007 10:25 am Post subject: removal of nylon outrigger legs

Thanks, Jim. The increase of pressure is one of the  options i've been thinking of. Just being somewhat

 reluctant to go above 20 psi, because, as John Wigney said, it  might make the landings even more interesting than

 at present.

 Today i splayed the legs with a jack, and after some  experimenting as to the amount of splaying, kept the

 shape by positioning a 10mm steel tube between the vertical  sides of the UC leg just proximal to the tyre.

 The tube was fixed with a bolt at each end. So far it seems to  work fine.

 Niels

  nielskock(at)get2net.dk

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