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What's required for IFR operation of an Experimental A/C?

 
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Deems Davis



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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 8:49 am    Post subject: What's required for IFR operation of an Experimental A/C? Reply with quote

Boy, is this opening up a can of worms ! I've seen the other responses
to this inquiry, I think I've read most everything I can find on this
subject, as in most things the devil is in the details. E.g. What do you
need to have to be legal to fly IFR WAAS approaches in an EXP aircraft?
Do you need a TSO'd WAAS GPS? (I'm under the impression that you do, as
opposed to a WAAS 'enabled/capable GPS'). If the WAAS GPS is a sensor
(Freeflight) and not a Garmin 430/480/480 and is attached/integrated
with an EXP EFIS system, does the EFIS system need to be able to supply
the RAIM error notification for the WAAS GPS ? (I dont' believe any of
the EXP EFIS systems currently do this) . ??????

Pat Thyssen, you got your ears on????

I've put 3 calls into my FSDO and left 3 messages on this topic and
haven't got a call back.

I spoke with one builder who indicated he was told by his FSDO that they
are individually approving ea EXP IFR aircraft !!!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/

Bill Reining wrote:
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I had a discussion tonight after our monthly EAA chapter meeting with another builder about glass panels and backup steam gauges. He had heard that the major reason folks put in backup steam gauges (e.g. analog airspeed, altimeter and horizon) is: they are a relatively inexpensive way to obtain some TSO'd instruments. Why TSO? Because they have demonstrated compliance to various specs necessary for IFR qualification. On the other hand, the various glass EFIS are not certified, thus have no credentials to prove they can meet IFR specs. It's not that they have to be certified, just that one has to be able to show that certain important instruments meet IFR requirements (whatever that might be... accuracy? stability?) Well anyway, does any of this make sense? Perhaps a better question: are there really any requirements that must be met before an Experimental category aircraft can fly IFR?

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PostPosted: Thu Aug 23, 2007 12:50 pm    Post subject: What's required for IFR operation of an Experimental A/C? Reply with quote

Deems,
I'm listening. I've just been busy doing annuals and other things. Have two more over the next three weeks and then will start back wiring.
Did you ever get anything from Freeflight?
Pat

Deems Davis <deemsdavis(at)cox.net> wrote:
[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: Deems Davis

Boy, is this opening up a can of worms ! I've seen the other responses
to this inquiry, I think I've read most everything I can find on this
subject, as in most things the devil is in the details. E.g. What do you
need to have to be legal to fly IFR WAAS approaches in an EXP aircraft?
Do you need a TSO'd WAAS GPS? (I'm under the impression that you do, as
opposed to a WAAS 'enabled/capable GPS'). If the WAAS GPS is a sensor
(Freeflight) and not a Garmin 430/480/480 and is attached/integrated
with an EXP EFIS system, does the EFIS system need to be able to supply
the RAIM error notification for the WAAS GPS ? (I dont' believe any of
the EXP EFIS systems currently do this) . ??????

Pat Thyssen, you got your ears on????

I've put 3 calls into my FSDO and left 3 messages on this topic and
haven't got a call back.

I spoke with one builder who indicated he was told by his FSDO that they
are individually approving ea EXP IFR aircraft !!!
Deems Davis # 406
'Its all done....Its just not put together'
http://deemsrv10.com/

Bill Reining wrote:
[quote] --> RV10-List message posted by: "Bill Reining"

I had a discussion tonight after our monthly EAA chapter meeting with another builder about glass panels and backup steam gauges. He had heard that the major reason folks put in backup steam gauges (e.g. analog airspeed, altimeter and horizon) is: they are a relatively inexpensive way to obtain some TSO'd instruments. Why TSO? Because they have demonstrated compliance to various specs necessary for IFR qualification. On the other hand, the various glass EFIS are not certified, thus have no credentials to prove they can meet IFR specs. It's not that they have to be certified, just that one has to be able to show that certain important instruments meet IFR requirements (whatever that might be... accuracy? stability?) Well anyway, does any of this make sense? Perhaps a better question: are there really any requirements that must be met before an Experimental category aircraft can fly IFR?

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Bill (and Jon) Reining
40514


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