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aired(at)frontiernet.net
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Posted: Sun Feb 12, 2006 11:55 pm Post subject: Cowling Update

Tell us more about these wingtips. How are you doing this?



Thanks,



Ed



On Feb 11, 2006, at 2:17 PM, TeamGrumman(at)aol.com wrote:



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		   Plus, I'm working on new carbon fiber wingtips that

 weigh about half of the fiberglass ones.

GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 12:46 am Post subject: Cowling Update

In a message dated 2/12/06 11:56:37 PM, aired(at)frontiernet.net writes:

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		   Tell us more about these wingtips. How are you doing this?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Ed

 


	


if I told you, I'd have to kill you

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AuCountry Aviation
Home of Team Grumman

jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:41 am Post subject: Cowling Update

He's not kidding.  I glimpsed his wheel pant mock-ups last time I was at AUN

and now live in constant fear...



Any sign of my cylinders yet from Lycon Gary?



Not that I'm trying to rush you.  I have too much to live for with a wife

and dog now;)



Jamey



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flyv35b(at)ashcreekwirele
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Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:49 am Post subject: Cowling Update

James, did you buy the A36 Bonanza yet?  How did the prebuy come out?



Cliff

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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 9:46 pm Post subject: Cowling Update

In a message dated 2/13/06 9:41:51 AM, jamey(at)jamescourtney.net writes:

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		   Any sign of my cylinders yet from Lycon Gary?

 

 


	


Hi Jamey, I got the cylinders and I've started removing everything to replace 

them.   Ken charged, I think it was, $200 for the use of that cylinder.   Or, 

something less.   



Gary

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AuCountry Aviation
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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 10:14 pm Post subject: Cowling Update

You couldn't convince him we were testing it for him;)



Seriously, that's great news and very gentlemanly of him.



Please let me (and Dan) know how the guts look.



What do you think about my question about cutting open the filter and

straining the oil when we drain it to make extra sure no valve bits got by

the piston?  Is it worth it or are the clean cylinder walls and unmarred

piston rings evidence enough?



I hope you had a good weekend.



Cheers,



Jamey



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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Mon Feb 13, 2006 11:31 pm Post subject: Cowling Update

In a message dated 2/13/06 10:15:34 PM, jamey(at)jamescourtney.net writes:

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		   What do you think about my question about cutting open the filter and

 straining the oil when we drain it to make extra sure no valve bits got by

 the piston?=A0 Is it worth it or are the clean cylinder walls and unmarred

 piston rings evidence enough?




	


I think you have a much great chance of finding pieces in your muffler.   If

they were small, they went on through.   I will cut open your filter.   I

don't expect to see anything.  



Gary

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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 8:06 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Cool, thanks.  Over on the GG they're discussing splitting the original

lower cowl at the bottom center rivet line and putting in a new doubler with

riv-nuts so that it could be removed in two pieces.  I attempted to point

them your way if they were looking to upgrade:)



Jamey



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GrummanDude

Joined: 15 Jan 2006
Posts: 926
Location: Auburn, CA

Posted: Tue Feb 14, 2006 11:50 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Thanks jamey.   Tell them I've also split about 6 cowlings down the middle 

using the same, or similar technique that Cliff Hanson uses.   



I'd split yours, but, someone has riveted a hughe doubler to it.



Also, your engine mount needs to come off and be stripped and repainted.   

It's pretty badly corroded and rusty in many places.   Time to sell.



Gary

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tscott165(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 8:15 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Yeah, James, we all want to know about your Bonanza. Isn't this the  

list server that so proudly proclaims it only deals in relevant  

information?  And, isn't Grumman the name of the list? Sounds like  

the B guys are on the wrong list!!



Scott Boyce, AA5B N28339

tscott165(at)cableone.net



On Feb 13, 2006, at 10:47 AM, flyv35b wrote:



[quote] 

 <flyv35b(at)ashcreekwireless.com>



 James, did you buy the A36 Bonanza yet?  How did the prebuy come out?



 Cliff

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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 9:38 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Scott,

  Despite Cliff's email he's one of the most knowledgeable Grumman folks

you'll have the privilege of finding which you should know from reading this

list or Grumman-Gang.  Chiding he and I like children will get you nowhere.

Yes, he should have posted his inquiry to me off list but you'll note I

consciously replied to him off list for the reasons you cite.  Welcome to an

imperfect world.  One of the advantages of Team-Grumman over Grumman-Gang is

that there is no list Nazi to prevent us from discussing interesting

tangential issues (not that my A36 purchase qualifies).



Jamey

AA5B N72T (at) KSQL

A36 N7218R (at) KSQL

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tscott165(at)cableone.net
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Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 10:31 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Jamey,



No question, Cliff is knowledgeable, as can be seen  from his writings.



I am not questioning his competence.



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		   you'll note I

 consciously replied to him off list for the reasons you cite (How  

 would I note that if it was off list?


	




I did not mean to be  "chiding... like children." And, I am not  

trying to get anywhere. (I am at a point in life where I don't need  

to get anywhere.)  It has just seemed to me from reading on these  

lists that there are standards for some that others seem to discount  

but chide, [Gee, I really like that word ],  others for  

trespassing. Not necessarily you. And I have read numerous comments  

on the Team-Grumman list  directing readers to the GG list for  

irrelevant commentary that they won't find on the Team-Grumman list.  

Poppycock!! And, there are Nazis everywhere. I read both lists for my  

own personal interests and delete what is not relevant to me. But  

there are frequent comments from the gurus to the effect, "I've  

written about this before, look it up in the archives." How helpful  

is that? If I were in the business, I would send the interested party  

something I had written from 'MY' archives with a phone number and  

email address to follow up if their questions were not answered. But  

then, I'm customer-service oriented. Didn't mean to ruffle any  

feathers of any particular bird, Grumman or other. And, truly, best  

wishes and good luck with the Bonanza.



BTW, I am using a new, unfamiliar MAC for this communication and  

would like to know if my emails are formatted ok. Reply off-list if not.



Scott Boyce

tscott165(at)cableone.net



On Feb 15, 2006, at 10:06 AM, James Courtney wrote:



[quote] 

 <jamey(at)jamescourtney.net>



 Scott,

   Despite Cliff's email he's one of the most knowledgeable Grumman  

 folks

 you'll have the privilege of finding which you should know from  

 reading this

 list or Grumman-Gang.  Chiding he and I like children will get you  

 nowhere.

 Yes, he should have posted his inquiry to me off list but you'll  

 note I

 consciously replied to him off list for the reasons you cite.   

 Welcome to an

 imperfect world.  One of the advantages of Team-Grumman over  

 Grumman-Gang is

 that there is no list Nazi to prevent us from discussing interesting

 tangential issues (not that my A36 purchase qualifies).



 Jamey

 AA5B N72T (at) KSQL

 A36 N7218R (at) KSQL

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stinis(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:24 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Looking for formation pilots to fly grumman tigers in CA and NV.

See attached AD.



Thanks,

Stephen

Skytypers, Inc.

http://www.skytypers.com



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jamey

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 124

Posted: Wed Feb 15, 2006 11:31 am Post subject: Cowling Update

Scott,

  No question, emails lists are mixed bag and I'd rather we police our own

standards of reasonable use than have someone else do it for us.  I still

read and benefit from the Grumman-Gang and respect very highly the opinions

of many of it's posters.  I admit the long-winded flap flap is growing old

but better that people care then not:)  I did't think you were questioning

Cliff's competance and I certainly don't intend that people should post

anything and everything as long as they meet other criteria.  I think Cliff

was genuinely interested in my progress and just forgot how he was replying.

My only point was that I thought you were being a little hard on him (and

me) for that triviality.  I actually have had some issue with this on the

Beech-Owners list where I'm used to GG where a reply is to the sender and a

reply-all is to the gang + sender but here and on the B-O list a simple

reply is to the list.



Correct, you wouldn't know for sure if I'd replied to him off list but since

you hadn't seen a reply I'd have appreciated the benefit of the doubt:)



At any rate, your email came through just fine and Gary is the man to get a

nice eyebrow from.  I don't have one but only because mine has held up well

enough to not make it worth replacing to me.  His product is vastly superior

to the "factory" eyebrow (sturdier, better lighting, and better looking) and

his installation would be excellent if you have the opportunity to have him

do the work.



Best regards,



Jamey

AA5B N72T (at) KSQL

A36 N7218R (at) KSQL



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