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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 6:25 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Hey Gang,



I am about to start some outside painting on my XL.  I will need to do some marking on the aluminum to get the masking accurately placed.  I know that a lead (graphite)pencil is a no-no; but what is the preferred tool?  I am hesitant to use a Sharpie, because whatever is used to remove it may also remove paint. I have considered a PaperMate Flare or Pentel felt tip pin, mainly because the ink is water soluble. Any suggestions?



Jay in Dallas

psm(at)ATT.NET
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:20 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Hi Jay,



I think you can use the Sharpie to mark your paint limits.  You might 

need to wait a couple of days for the paint to harden before removing 

the Sharpie marks, but the paint should not be a problem once it is hardened.



My understanding is that "Enamel" paints are not subject to solvent 

destruction after dry.  Lacquer paints are indeed always limited in 

their resistance to solvent.  I also believe all the paints you are 

likely to use on your plane will indeed be enamels.



You might want to conduct some tests to determine how long to let the 

paint dry before attacking the marks with solvent.  Indeed, I might 

be wrong about all this.



Paul

XL fuselage

At 07:24 AM 8/28/2007, you wrote:

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Hey Gang,



I am about to start some outside painting on my XL.  I will need to 

do some marking on the aluminum to get the masking accurately 

placed.  I know that a lead (graphite)pencil is a no-no; but what is 

the preferred tool?  I am hesitant to use a Sharpie, because 

whatever is used to remove it may also remove paint. I have 

considered a PaperMate Flare or Pentel felt tip pin, mainly because 

the ink is water soluble. Any suggestions?



Jay in Dallas

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Joined: 18 Aug 2007
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Location: Chesapeake, Virginia

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 8:34 am Post subject: Painting Layout

I HAVEN'T  PAINTED YET, BUT I WILL TRY USING PAINTERS TAPE UNTIL I GET IT LIKE I WANT IT.  IT FLEXES WELL AND SHOULDN'T PULL PAINT OFF.  I USE THE BLUE FROM SCOTCH

  

 GLENN



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		   Date: Tue, 28 Aug 2007 10:24:53 -0400

 From: Jaybannist(at)cs.com

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 Hey Gang,

 

 I am about to start some outside painting on my XL. I will need to do some marking on the aluminum to get the masking accurately placed. I know that a lead (graphite)pencil is a no-no; but what is the preferred tool? I am hesitant to use a Sharpie, because whatever is used to remove it may also remove paint. I have considered a PaperMate Flare or Pentel felt tip pin, mainly because the ink is water soluble. Any suggestions?

 

 Jay in Dallas> 

 

 


	


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dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 10:49 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Don't use the blue or the purple painter's tape to do your actual masking on the plane. It will leak paint at places no matter how hard you try to stop it. That stuff only works reasonably for latex paints in my experience. Use that blue stuff to mark where the next color will be. Then position real masking tape next to the painter's tape using it as a guide. Once the masking tape is in place, the painter's tape is removed and the painting continues. That way you have the ease of placement and removal offered by the blue stuff to set  the design then the superioir sealing of regular masking tape when you are painting.



Dred



---- GLENN JOHNSON <gljno10(at)HOTMAIL.COM> wrote: 

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 I HAVEN'T  PAINTED YET, BUT I WILL TRY USING PAINTERS TAPE UNTIL I GET IT LIKE I WANT IT.  IT FLEXES WELL AND SHOULDN'T PULL PAINT OFF.  I USE THE BLUE FROM SCOTCH

Ron Lendon

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 685
Location: Clinton Twp., MI

Posted: Tue Aug 28, 2007 7:11 pm Post subject: Re: Painting Layout

I have seen this done.  Find 1/8" wide masking tape for doing the complex shapes.  



OR  use 3/4" tape over the joint, mark the tape, cut with an exatco knife and lift the side you don't want. 

Let me be more clear about this.  Mark the tape, Lift the side you don't want, cut the tape only.  The knife should not touch the metal.

Just some thoughts,

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Last edited by Ron Lendon on Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:04 pm; edited 1 time in total

cscsail(at)gmavt.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 2:24 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Use 3M fineline

 Gordon

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Jaybannist(at)cs.com
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 4:50 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Gordon, Thanks for the suggestion.  Still don't have an engine. - Jay

"Gordon" <cscsail(at)gmavt.net> wrote:



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		  Use 3M fineline

Gordon

dredmoody(at)cox.net
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Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 5:53 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Are you sure that you want to cut through the tape with an 

exacto knife and amost certainly score the aluminum skin underneath it? That sounds dangerous to me. Did I miss something there?



Dred



---- Ron Lendon <rlendon(at)comcast.net> wrote: 

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 I have seen this done.  Find 1/8" wide masking tape for doing the complex shapes.  

 

 OR  use 3/4" tape over the joint, mark the tape, cut with an exatco knife and lift the side you don't want. 

 

 Just some thoughts,

 

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AZFlyer

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Wed Aug 29, 2007 12:44 pm Post subject: Re: Painting Layout

Jay,



From my RC building/flying days we always used thin "trim" tape (1/16, 1/8, 1/4") to make the painting edge, then regular masking tape over that for cover paper,  blue 3M works for that.

Electrical (plastic) tape also works, if the curves are not too tight.



Use "Fine point dry erase markers" to mark your dimensions...marks come off easy.



Wouldn't use the Xacto knife procedure...  very hard to control the depth of cut.



Mike

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 2:24 pm Post subject: Painting Layout

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Posted: Fri Aug 31, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: Painting Layout

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Posted: Wed Sep 05, 2007 10:22 am Post subject: Painting Layout

Don't use regular masking tape to separate two different colors because it will leak and bleed. Use vinyell or plastic painter's tape from an auto paint store. 

 

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