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 Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 12:29 am Post subject: Europa-List Digest: 11 Msgs - 10/08/07 |
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I tried many ways to reply to this thread to no avail...just a reminder that the hard landing crinkled nose that resulted in center console damage photos can be seen here: http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=TonyPA184&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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Total Messages Posted Mon 10/08/07: 11
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Today's Message Index:
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1. 01:17 AM - Re: Center console (John Cliff)
2. 02:27 AM - Re: centre console (Fred Klein)
3. 03:09 AM - Re: Autocad drawing of XS mono (G-IANI)
4. 03:34 AM - Re: Center Console (G-IANI)
5. 06:05 AM - Re: Out rigger latching postmortem (Graeme Smith)
6. 07:35 AM - Re: centre console (JEFF ROBERTS)
7. 10:49 AM - Re: Out rigger latching postmortem (Graham Singleton)
8. 11:22 AM - Re: Center Console (Duncan & Ami McFadyean)
9. 11:40 AM - Re: Out rigger latching postmortem (Fred Klein)
10. 03:09 PM - Re: Out rigger latching postmortem (Paul McAllister)
11. 05:34 PM - Re: centre console (DuaneFamly(at)aol.com)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 01:17:31 AM PST US
From: "John Cliff"
Subject: Re: Center console
Sometime around 2000 I enquired of PFA Engineering about the possibility of
cutting down the centre tunnel (on a Classic) in the vertical plane at the
same time as carrying out a taildragger conversion.
I was informally told they might not be too happy about that because they
weren't sure the front fuselage would be strong enough to cope with a very
heavy landing with engine now hung a long way in front of the attachment
point for the front wheels (the deeper the tunnel is the stronger a beam it
makes, vertically).
Evidently a Europa had suffered a wrinkled front fuselage some time before
that in a heavy arrival incident.
Much more in-service experience since then, of course.
John Cliff
#0259
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Time: 02:27:43 AM PST US
Subject: Re: centre console
From: Fred Klein
| Quote: | We cut this console down but added several layers of bid to reinforce
the inside. We then created the top with 5 layers of bid. It's secured
with #10 screws and nut plates. The left seat was widened by
reshapeing the left side of the console to allow for more leg room.
This was done with 3 layers of bid over a center of 1/4 inch foam
shaped to allow a right leg more room. As you can see it makes a great
arm rest and a lot more room for toys. The fuel filters are located
right under the arm rest and can be viewed in flight anytime.
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Jeff...what an absolutely elegant mod...I salute you. I take it all
this was done prior to CM installation...(?)
Fred
A194
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________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 03:09:53 AM PST US
From: "G-IANI"
Subject: RE: Autocad drawing of XS mono
On behalf of the Club I hold Autocad drawings for the Europa. These are
available on the CD sent to new members. We have both mono and Trigear
and the Hi-Top outlines. They are reasonably accurate but the factory
confused some of the classic details with the XS. They have been
checked where detail was needed. I also have a range of other detailed
drawings for areas such as the foot wells, the 914 engine etc.
Ian Rickard #505 G-IANI XS Trigear
Europa Club Mods Rep (Trigear)
e-mail mods(at)europaclub.org.uk
or direct g-iani(at)ntlworld.com
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