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jpaynter(at)cyberg8t.com
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Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Listers:

I'm in the process of appealing the property tax valuation on my RV-9A.  

I spent approximately 60k and it's being valued at 108k by San 

Bernardino Co., CA.  So I'm looking for 3 or 4 people who have sold or 

bought an RV-9A who would be willing to share their hard data with me 

such as name, phone#, selling price, etc.  All information would be kept 

confidential shared only with the County.



For comparison my RV is VFR, O-320, fixed pitch prop, Dynon, 1 radio, 

handheld GPS, and Digitrak.



Please reply off list to:  jpaynter(at)cyberg8t.com



Thanks in advance,

Jim Paynter

RV-9A, KCCB

Bruce(at)glasair.org
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:22 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

I would think that the receipts of what you paid for your kit would do the

trick. The value is the sum of the cost. Unless the state of CA thinks they

can tax you on the value of your labor. 



Bruce

www.Glasair.org

 



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Bruce(at)glasair.org
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

One other thing, if the state is trying to tax your labor, tell them that

because of product liability issues, you will never sell it but scrap it

instead. Therefore, it's resale value is zero and you owe nothing. It's been

done, witness airplanes being donated to museums, turned into windsocks, or

cut up into pieces. All to avoid product liability.



So, argue that because it's an experimental aircraft its value is zero.



Bruce

www.Glasair.org

 



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acepilot(at)bloomer.net
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:55 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Now THAT one I can buy   If you try this route, let me know how it 

works out.  I might be able to apply that theory to other items of 

"homebuilt" property such as hotrods, etc.  do not archive



Scott

http://corbenflyer.tripod.com/

Gotta Fly or Gonna Die

Building RV-4 (Super Slow Build Version)



Bruce Gray wrote:



[quote]



One other thing, if the state is trying to tax your labor, tell them that

because of product liability issues, you will never sell it but scrap it

instead. Therefore, it's resale value is zero and you owe nothing. It's been

done, witness airplanes being donated to museums, turned into windsocks, or

cut up into pieces. All to avoid product liability.



So, argue that because it's an experimental aircraft its value is zero.



Bruce

www.Glasair.org

 



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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:31 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

This is the reason I'll register my RV-10 as anything but 'RV-10'.    

Something like a 'VANS special' might work.  The State tax guys look up 

ads for airplanes to set value of like-registered planes.  The other tax 

item is to send your state whatever you want (but be somewhat 

reasonable) BEFORE they send you a letter.  Send them the tax just 

before you register your plane since registration is what triggers the 

tax letter.

Linn

do not archive



 	  Quote: 	
		  >

> Listers:

> I'm in the process of appealing the property tax valuation on my 

> RV-9A.  I spent approximately 60k and it's being valued at 108k by 

> San Bernardino Co., CA.  So I'm looking for 3 or 4 people who have 

> sold or bought an RV-9A who would be willing to share their hard data 

> with me such as name, phone#, selling price, etc.  All information 

> would be kept confidential shared only with the County.

Bruce(at)glasair.org
Guest

Posted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 9:20 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Yes, that's a good approach. I registered my Glasair III as a SH25. But

since then my state (Connecticut) has abolished the property tax on

airplanes and replaced it with a simple $100 annual registration fee, lucky

me!



Oh, and they just did away with the 6% sales tax on aircraft parts and

services.



Bruce

www.Glasair.org

 



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bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:50 am Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

That's what I did.  My airplane is a DO-7.  Nothing for the tax people to compare.



Dana Overall 

Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 

O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg

http://rvflying.tripod.com

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[quote] Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 00:31:45 -0400

 From: pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Property Tax Appeal

 

 --> RV-List message posted by: linn Walters <pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.net>

 

 This is the reason I'll register my RV-10 as anything but 'RV-10'.    

 Something like a 'VANS special' might work.  The State tax guys look up 

 ads for airplanes to set value of like-registered planes.  The other tax 

 item is to send your state whatever you want (but be somewhat 

 reasonable) BEFORE they send you a letter.  Send them the tax just 

 before you register your plane since registration is what triggers the 

 tax letter.

 Linn

 do not archive

 

 >>

 >> Listers:

 >> I'm in the process of appealing the property tax valuation on my 

 >> RV-9A.  I spent approximately 60k and it's being valued at 108k by 

 >> San Bernardino Co., CA.  So I'm looking for 3 or 4 people who have 

 >> sold or bought an RV-9A who would be willing to share their hard data 

 >> with me such as name, phone#, selling price, etc.  All information 

 >> would be kept confidential shared only wit==================

 

 

 

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rv7(at)b4.ca
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 8:09 am Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

On 4:47 2007-10-10 Dana Overall <bo124rs(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 	  Quote: 	
		   That's what I did.  My airplane is a DO-7.  Nothing for the tax

 people to compare.



 Dana Overall

 Richmond, KY i39

 RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"


	


If you're calling it an RV-7 in your signature, posting many, many messages

with that same signature over the years to a public list, and discussing

all of the things you did on "your -7", it's pretty clear that the plane is

fundamentally an RV-7.  If you're only calling it a DO-7 for the purposes

of tax evasion, i'd think the tax man would have a pretty easy time of

raking you over the coals for it.



I know the probability is vanishingly low, but occasionally Tax people do

check on these things... If they get it in their mind that you're trying to

evade taxes, they'll look everywhere to prove it.



-Rob

bo124rs(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 10:00 am Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Rob, you are taking this far off base.  I simply registered my airplane as a DO-7.  This enabled me to set the taxable value rather the property valuation office.  Once they set the value, that's it unless you can prove otherwise, just like what the original poster is having to go through.  At no time did I ever say anything about tax evasion I just didn't want to have to argue with them.  

Dana Overall 

Richmond, KY i39

RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic" 

O 360 A1A, C/S C2YK-1BF/F7666A4

http://rvflying.tripod.com/blackwing1.jpg

http://rvflying.tripod.com

do not archive 

 	  Quote: 	
		   Date: Wed, 10 Oct 2007 09:29:41 -0700

 From: rv7(at)b4.ca

 Subject: RE: Property Tax Appeal

 To: rv-list(at)matronics.com

 --> RV-List message posted by: "Rob Prior" <rv7(at)b4.ca>

 On 4:47 2007-10-10 Dana Overall <bo124rs(at)hotmail.com> wrote:

 > That's what I did.  My airplane is a DO-7.  Nothing for the tax

 > people to compare.

 >

 > Dana Overall

 > Richmond, KY i39

 > RV-7 slider, Imron black, "Black Magic"

 If you're calling it an RV-7 in your signature, posting many, many messages

 with that same signature over the years to a public list, and discussing

 all of the things you did on "your -7", it's pretty clear that the plane is

 fundamentally an RV-7.  If you're only calling it a DO-7 for the purposes

 of tax evasion, i'd think the tax man would have a pretty easy time of

 raking you over the coals for it.

 I know the probability is vanishingly low, but occasionally Tax people do

 check on these things... If they get it in their mind that you're trying to

 evade taxes, they'll look everywhere to prov===============

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jfogarty(at)tds.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:14 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Dana,  If the tax man Google's your name they will  have all the information they need regarding your airplane.   Sorry.  

  

 We should all be working on changing the tax laws on  personal aircraft.  In MN the rate is 6.5% on airplanes, and when  I purchased the Cardinal that is the rate I paid on the purchase  price.  This is totally ridiculous to pay this much tax, but our State  loves the money.  Dana, your DO-7 looks great and I hope they  never check!

  

 Jim

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n801bh(at)netzero.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 1:15 pm Post subject: Property Tax Appeal

Heck, if the California tax man says it worth 105,000. 00 $$$$  Make him buy it for that amount. I bet they will change their tune REAL quick...

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