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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
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Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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 Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 1:11 pm Post subject: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
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It looks like the flying season is winding down around the Northern
Mid-East if the number of fly-ins posted is any indication. In the
Michigan, Indiana, Illinois and Ohio areas, only two fly-ins were
listed. I attended the Chili-fest at Sandusky, OH, about 75 miles
from home today. I ran into Steve Shinabery, a frequent poster here
on the list, while I was wandering around the ramp. Steve is planning
to install a Jabiru 2200 when his 2-cylinder Rotax engine gets tired.
It's always great to run into fellow Kitfox'ers when attending these
get-togethers, and if Steve hadn't mentioned that he has a Kitfox, I
probably would not have met him. Maybe we all ought to proudly wear
an I.D. badge when we attend these informal gatherings, so others can
see that we fly a Kitfox, one of the best homebuilts around.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
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dave
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382
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| Posted: Sun Oct 28, 2007 4:38 pm Post subject: Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
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Lynn, A few us us met in Kitfoxes and various aircaft at Pelee island which is a bout 20 miles or so from Sandusky in Sept. There was close to 80 that flew in I think. 3 of us on amphibsI was still on floats them and makes flying across water lower more accommodating, for me anyhow.
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Lynn Matteson
Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 2778
Location: Grass Lake, Michigan
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:36 am Post subject: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
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Seems like we talked about this earlier, Dave, and as I recall
mentioning back then, Pelee Island is in Canadian waters, and as
such, I cannot fly in there due to my lack of a medical (Sport
Pilot). Hopefully, Canada and the US can get together and get this
very small disagreement ironed out. I'd also like to fly up to
Alaska, but cannot because of the need to overfly Canada to get there.
At the time we were talking about this Canadian thing somebody
mentioned that I could fly into Canada, but it would require getting
permission to do so. I'm sorry to say that I still haven't looked
into what the actual restriction is, but I need to do just that.
Lynn Matteson
Grass Lake, Michigan
Kitfox IV Speedster w/Jabiru 2200
flying w/420+ hrs
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On Oct 28, 2007, at 8:38 PM, dave wrote:
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Lynn, A few us us met in Kitfoxes and various aircaft at Pelee
island which is a bout 20 miles or so from Sandusky in Sept.
There was close to 80 that flew in I think. 3 of us on amphibsI was
still on floats them and makes flying across water lower more
accommodating, for me anyhow.
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dave
Joined: 22 Sep 2006
Posts: 1382
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:48 am Post subject: Re: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
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Lynn, likewise for me going stateside. 
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into what the actual restriction is, but I need to do just that. |
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Float Flyr
Joined: 19 Jul 2006
Posts: 2704
Location: Campbellton, Newfoundland
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| Posted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:00 am Post subject: Chili fly-in at Sandusky, OH...only slightly off topic |
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I had a similar occurrence. Apparently there is a section of the FARs that allow a PP-Rec to fly his own plane in the U.S. for limited time (180 days) the problem I came into is none of the FAA offices know anything about it. I finally got someone's secretary, I think it was in Buffalo New York, she told me the regularly make those arrangements but only for Canadian Ultralight aircraft. My plane is AB and by definition can be flown as an ultralight in Canada. U.S. authorities want my plane to meet U.S. ultralight specs.
In Canada the class 3 medical declaration is just that, a legal declaration that a pilot makes to say he doesn't have one foot under the sod. After the age of 45 the declaration requires that the pilot have an EKG every second year. That part of the declaration must be signed by the doctor who ordered the EKG. As you know the U.S. system has the drivers license as a standard. Where we are stuck is both countries say the other is flying without an aviation medical.
I can't see Canada taking up the driver's license as a medical because I doubt any of the provinces (somewhat equivalent to states) have a medical from for a driver's license. Here in Newfoundland for example there are medicals for tractor trailer operators, school bus drivers, air brake endorsement and ambulance drivers etc. Our highway traffic act requires a doctor to inform the Department of Highways when he sees a patient who can no longer drive. I expect highways gets around one report from doctors each year. There is the legal question as to whether highways is intruding on the Canadian Medical Association the governing body for doctors. Mounties (police in this area) can order a doctor to take a blood test for alcohol when a patient arrives at a hospital. More often than not the request is complied with. No doctor has ever been convicted of refusing this order and several refusals have been noted.
All this aside there is no reason they can't write into the CARs (replace Federal with Canadian) U.S. pilots using the legal medical/flight permit in their country would be able to fly in Canada. The reciprocal could also be true.
There may be another couple of hang ups for me if they didn't include the flight permit part. I fly floats as an ultralight (by definition)in Canada. In the U.S. that requires an endorsement. If I dropped the floats then I have a conventional (tail dragger) gear that also in the U.S. requires an endorsement. Also I can have a IFA prop (I have the Ivo IFA) in Canada... I don't know if that requires another endorsement in the U.S.
If the bureaucrats on both sides of the border would sit down and settle the medical issues. I can't see it taking more than a good weekend if every one comes prepared. We all would benefit. Unfortunately that is low on the list of priorities.
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Noel Loveys, RPP, AME intern
Campbellton, Newfoundland,
Canada
Kitfox Mod III-A, 582, B box, Ivo IFA
Aerocet 1100s
noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca (noelloveys(at)yahoo.ca)
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