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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:47 am    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

Has anyone on one of their RVs had to remove a fuel tank access panel(the
ones Van's sells, The twelve screw hole, thick plate). I placed mine on with
a proseal and I am considering removal. but I think due to the tight fit and
the proseal acting as a very strong adhesive, and due to the limited access,
it might be a lot of trouble getting the plate off.

Someone suggested using a heat gun to loosen the proseal but, that did not
appear to do anything on a test piece of proseal and it would affect the
proseal that is beneath the structural reinforcing plate around the opening.

Ideas?

Thanks,

John G. 409

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 10:14 am    Post subject: Re: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

John,
I've taken the plate of off the -7A that was prosealed on (actually have done this a couple times). Ended up not being a big deal. Just take the screws out (I used some allen head screws which made taking them out much easier on the 7) and use a putty knife or something similar to get started. Once it starts just work around the edge prying a little and the proseal will turn loose.

Doug.... riveting the tailcone together.... soon will be waiting on QB Fuse and wings.


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 11:29 am    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

Thanks for the heads up.

I bought some exacto blades shaped likes a chisel head, but still leaves the
access between the skin flanges and the tank attachment angles a slight
issue with the blade handle.

Hopefully it will be easier than my mind is imagining it.

John

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John,
I've taken the plate of off the -7A that was prosealed on (actually have
done this a couple times). Ended up not being a big deal. Just take the
screws out (I used some allen head screws which made taking them out much
easier on the 7) and use a putty knife or something similar to get started.
Once it starts just work around the edge prying a little and the proseal
will turn loose.

Doug.... riveting the tailcone together.... soon will be waiting on QB
Fuse and wings.

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Doug
RV7A flying ~500hrs


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 12:22 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

Use a PLASTIC putty knife... works well, doesn't carve out aluminum!

Also, it will avoid the wrath of J.C.

-Jim 40384

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John,
I've taken the plate of off the -7A that was prosealed on (actually have done this a couple times). Ended up not being a big deal. Just take the screws out (I used some allen head screws which made taking them out much easier on the 7) and use a putty knife or something similar to get started. Once it starts just work around the edge prying a little and the proseal will turn loose.

Doug.... riveting the tailcone together.... soon will be waiting on QB Fuse and wings.

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Doug
RV7A flying ~500hrs


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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 1:18 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

Just a reminder... anyone removing proseal should use extreme caution to
avoid scratching the underlying aluminum. Use plastic tools.

I am always somewhat paranoid of scratches as I had an elevator spar on my
Cessna 152 crack do to a scratch. Good thing my A&P noticed a small bit of
flex in the elevator hinge points on an annual and wouldn't let it slide. I
can imagine elevator spar failure in flight will ruin your day and probably
those below you as well.

-Ben

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 3:32 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

You might also consider using the non-hardening version of PRC for
resealing the access panel. That is what Mooney specifies for their
access panels.
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Use a PLASTIC putty knife... works well, doesn't carve out aluminum!

Also, it will avoid the wrath of J.C.

-Jim 40384

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:32 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

Use of a metal putty knife is a "Termination Offence" at work (Spelling
is Canadian cause the planes are designed by French Canadians. The
damage inflicted on aluminum skin quickly exceeds the 10 to 15% damage
depth permitted to be blended smooth after scrapping. Plastic scrappers
are given out by the dozens.

We remove easily 100 panels per night using fiberglass reinforced
plastic scrapers. Teams of guys "Lay to" the process to get at the
goodies needing fixing below the covers.

Skin knives are contraband yet some have them hidden to use leverage
after the perimeter seal is broken with plastic scrapers. Boeing
surplus and Ebay have been a source of all things connected with
sealant.

John Cox

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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 7:55 pm    Post subject: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

"The Tree of Life is Self Pruning". (No disrespect intended).

If a builder is not aware of why aluminum edges and drilled rivet holes
need deburring, then why the use of a metal scraper can condemn the skin
to replacement is a waste of words. Of the 800 RV-10 builders, at least
100 must be using primitive tools from their woodworking days. Leave it
to an RV-7A builder to turn on the light to this age old problem. Why
not just use a screwdriver and hammer and get it over with. And James,
I did not shout.

Be diligent, Build Safe, Fly Often, Fly Safe, Live long.

Off to work with my plastic scrapers in hand.

John C.
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 12, 2007 8:24 pm    Post subject: Re: Removal of fuel tank access panel Reply with quote

John,
Thanks for reminding me why not to post to these boards. I do certainly appreciate your wisdom in correcting the errors of my ways as I don't desire to steer anyone wrong.

Doug

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