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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:16 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Has anyone found that shortening the leg in anyway reduces the prop ground
clearance? I also find that the Langair web site now states to include a
check for $100 and they will refund or bill for any difference.

Marty in Brentwood TN
Time: 06:55:38 PM PST US
From: Ralph Hoover <hooverra(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Price for nose gear leg?
Charlie,
Here is the story on the gear leg mod from Harmon Lang. This is to go from a
-2 to a -3, if you have the -1 I believe you need the new leg, I was unable
to find the price on "the list" either. You probably need to call Van's.

/"The procedure to send the nose gear for modifying.
Pack it up in a box or tube and send it to Langair Machining 33094 Church
Rd. Warren Or. 97053. A drawing for a box is on the web site. A tube from a
carpet core also works. Include $75.00 for the work and enough to ship it
back. Cash or check. We don't take credit cards. Include a return label. We
will remove it from the container, cut the 1 in off, rethread and put it
back in the same container. The rethreading is done with a carbide thread
milling tool running in a CNC mill. If you have the mill you can do this
yourself. Cutter cost and set up will only cost about $300.00 or so. Expect
the time in our shop to be about 4 days. Until we know how many there will
be, we have to set one day aside to do the batch that comes in for the week.
Please help by making the repackaging go as easily as possible. NO
CONFUSION. Harmon"/

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 6:56 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Not for sure here, but I think the prop/ground clearance stays the same.
The redesigned nose fork is where the difference is, it allows the leg
to be shorter, therefore allowing more clearance between the nut and the
ground. Just placed my order a few minutes ago Smile

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Emrath wrote:
[quote]

Has anyone found that shortening the leg in anyway reduces the prop ground
clearance? I also find that the Langair web site now states to include a
check for $100 and they will refund or bill for any difference.

Marty in Brentwood TN
Time: 06:55:38 PM PST US
From: Ralph Hoover <hooverra(at)verizon.net>
Subject: Price for nose gear leg?
Charlie,
Here is the story on the gear leg mod from Harmon Lang. This is to go from a
-2 to a -3, if you have the -1 I believe you need the new leg, I was unable
to find the price on "the list" either. You probably need to call Van's.

/"The procedure to send the nose gear for modifying.
Pack it up in a box or tube and send it to Langair Machining 33094 Church
Rd. Warren Or. 97053. A drawing for a box is on the web site. A tube from a
carpet core also works. Include $75.00 for the work and enough to ship it
back. Cash or check. We don't take credit cards. Include a return label. We
will remove it from the container, cut the 1 in off, rethread and put it
back in the same container. The rethreading is done with a carbide thread
milling tool running in a CNC mill. If you have the mill you can do this
yourself. Cutter cost and set up will only cost about $300.00 or so. Expect
the time in our shop to be about 4 days. Until we know how many there will
be, we have to set one day aside to do the batch that comes in for the week.
Please help by making the repackaging go as easily as possible. NO
CONFUSION. Harmon"/

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lifeofreiley2003(at)yahoo
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:35 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

With the new fork there is a 'rake' adjustment.
Shortening the leg does nothing but raise the threads
as the thickness of the fork yoke is narrower. How
much difference in 'rake' (angle on the fork) to my
knowledge has not been published.

Darrell

--- Bobby Hester <bobbyhester(at)newwavecomm.net> wrote:

[quote]
<bobbyhester(at)newwavecomm.net>

Not for sure here, but I think the prop/ground
clearance stays the same.
The redesigned nose fork is where the difference is,
it allows the leg
to be shorter, therefore allowing more clearance
between the nut and the
ground. Just placed my order a few minutes ago Smile

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Visit my RV7A web site:
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Emrath wrote:
>
<emrath(at)comcast.net>
>
> Has anyone found that shortening the leg in anyway
reduces the prop ground
> clearance? I also find that the Langair web site
now states to include a
> check for $100 and they will refund or bill for
any difference.
>
> Marty in Brentwood TN
>
>
> Time: 06:55:38 PM PST US
> From: Ralph Hoover <hooverra(at)verizon.net>
> Subject: Price for nose gear leg?
>
>
> Charlie,
> Here is the story on the gear leg mod from Harmon
Lang. This is to go from a
> -2 to a -3, if you have the -1 I believe you need
the new leg, I was unable
> to find the price on "the list" either. You
probably need to call Van's.
>
> /"The procedure to send the nose gear for
modifying.
> Pack it up in a box or tube and send it to Langair
Machining 33094 Church
> Rd. Warren Or. 97053. A drawing for a box is on
the web site. A tube from a
> carpet core also works. Include $75.00 for the
work and enough to ship it
> back. Cash or check. We don't take credit cards.
Include a return label. We
> will remove it from the container, cut the 1 in
off, rethread and put it
> back in the same container. The rethreading is
done with a carbide thread
> milling tool running in a CNC mill. If you have
the mill you can do this
> yourself. Cutter cost and set up will only cost
about $300.00 or so. Expect
> the time in our shop to be about 4 days. Until we
know how many there will
> be, we have to set one day aside to do the batch
that comes in for the week.
> Please help by making the repackaging go as easily
as possible. NO
> CONFUSION. Harmon"/
>
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 7:42 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

It is shortened from the bottom which increases ground clearance for the
fork but has no impact on prop clearance. Attached pix might help. Not
sure whose it is but it shows the difference well.

Also the $100 from Lang is really $75 for machining and $25 for freight back
and he sends you a check for the diff. I think mine was about $8 back. He
did a perfect job and I had it back in two weeks. A bargain! Building the
box was the hard part.

Bill S
7a Ark

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:01 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

The hole for the axle and the forward hole for holding the nose wheel
fairing are in the same place. The top of the fork is in the same place.

The bottom angle has changed but is not a factor.

Ron Lee

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PostPosted: Tue Nov 13, 2007 8:17 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Ditto what Bill said. The rake diffrence is in the
fork due to the shortening of the leg at the threads.
No clearance difference at all to my knowledge.

Darrell
--- Bill Schlatterer <billschlatterer(at)sbcglobal.net>
wrote:

[quote] It is shortened from the bottom which increases
ground clearance for the
fork but has no impact on prop clearance. Attached
pix might help. Not
sure whose it is but it shows the difference well.

Also the $100 from Lang is really $75 for machining
and $25 for freight back
and he sends you a check for the diff. I think mine
was about $8 back. He
did a perfect job and I had it back in two weeks. A
bargain! Building the
box was the hard part.

Bill S
7a Ark

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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 12:41 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

So, to make this change, does one just have to swap out the fork, or does
the nose gear leg have to come out, too? I think it'd be near impossible
to get my nose gear leg out now.
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Did you even read the SB?
http://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/sb07-11-9.pdf

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Brian Meyette wrote:
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So, to make this change, does one just have to swap out the fork, or does
the nose gear leg have to come out, too? I think it'd be near impossible
to get my nose gear leg out now.
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:46 am    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

No, I wasn't aware of any of it until yesterday. Thanks for the link.
brian

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PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:49 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Ok, sorry about sounding so harsh. We've been talking about this for about a week on the list.
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 2:54 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Has anybody looked into this? Why do you need to shorten the leg? If the reason for the modification is to get 1" additional ground clearance and the new fork provides the proper geometry then why not add a 1" spacer on top of the new fork. No cutting of the existing gear leg and as an added benefit you will have an additional inch of prop clearance. I have a friend that has a new fork assembly on order and I will have an opportunity to check out this theory myself when we install / remove the fork assembly.
Russ Keith
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 4:45 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Won't work.

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PostPosted: Sun Nov 18, 2007 5:28 pm    Post subject: Nose Gear Leg Reply with quote

Ok, it may work but you will have to drill a hole for the piece that limits the wheel travel.

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