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mprather(at)spro.net
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:26 pm Post subject: Was Compass Requirements for FAA Inspection |
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Has anyone tried to have the wording of their op-lims changed (or
customized) before they were issues (when it might arguably be easier to
accomplish)? Maybe even talk to the DAR before he comes out and ask him
how they are going to be worded..
Regards,
Matt-
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<kuffel(at)cyberport.net>
Dj and others say:
<< experimental aircraft flying day VFR do not have to comply
with 91.205. Your Operating Limitations on your
experimental aircraft generally say something like "After
completion of Phase I flight testing, unless appropriately
equipped for night and/or instrument flight in accordance with
91.205, this aircraft is to be operated under VFR, day only". >>
My operating limitations say:
"The aircraft shall contain .. equipment as required for type of
flight, in accordance with FAR # 91.205." No exceptions for me.
The moral here is better check your own specific operating
limitations before thinking a generalized table is valid for you.
But remember, the question was what is legal not reasonable. My
planes always have a compass even if it's not "required".
Tom Kuffel
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Bruce(at)glasair.org
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:34 pm Post subject: Was Compass Requirements for FAA Inspection |
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The contents of the OP Limits are dictated by the local FSDO, and except for
some minor points cannot be changed by the ABDAR without approval from the
FSDO.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
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bakerocb
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:11 am Post subject: Was Compass Requirements for FAA Inspection |
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11/27/2007
Hello Matt, The answer to your question below is "sorta, yes".
My initial aircraft Operating Limitations were written without the aerobatic
permission paragraph. At my request the FAA Inspector went back to the
computer and rewrote them.
Then he put in a ridiculous restriction that the aircraft had to be tested
for aerobatics in some locally established aerobatic competition practice
boxes that were far too small for anything other than a competition
aerobatic aircraft to maneuver within.
Again at my request he eliminated that aerobatic box requirement and
expanded my test area so that I could do the testing well away from airways.
I also recently observed an FAA inspection of an RV-7 wherein the head
inspector was training some new inspectors. One of the new inspectors had
prepared the Operating Limitations and had forgotten to include one of the
required paragraphs and that was not discovered until the actual inspection.
They went back to the computer and rewrote the Operating Limitations.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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Time: 07:26:31 PM PST US
Subject: Re: Re: Was Compass Requirements for FAA
Inspection
From: "Matt Prather" <mprather(at)spro.net>
Has anyone tried to have the wording of their op-lims changed (or
customized) before they were issues (when it might arguably be easier to
accomplish)? Maybe even talk to the DAR before he comes out and ask him
how they are going to be worded..
Regards,
Matt-
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bakerocb
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 6:20 am Post subject: Was Compass Requirements for FAA Inspection |
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11/27/2007
Hello Bruce, I would suggest that the contents of the Operating Limitations
are dictated by FAA Order 8130.2F. Available here:
http://www.airweb.faa.gov/Regulatory_and_Guidance_Library/rgOrders.nsf/MainFrame?OpenFrameSet
The FSDO, the FAA Inspectors, and the DAR's should be in compliance with
that order.
'OC' Says: "The best investment we can make is the effort to gather and
understand knowledge."
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Time: 08:34:47 PM PST US
From: "Bruce Gray" <Bruce(at)glasair.org>
Subject: RE: Re: Was Compass Requirements for FAA
Inspection
The contents of the OP Limits are dictated by the local FSDO, and except for
some minor points cannot be changed by the ABDAR without approval from the
FSDO.
Bruce
www.Glasair.org
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