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Lee Logan
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:34 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 12/08/07 |
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I was doing a little refresher reading the other day and though I don't have it in front of me right now, I think some of what I read was pertinent to the "IFR instrument check" question. If I am remembering correctly, the FAA IFR Instrument manual contains a discussion of the issue and points out that you might reasonably assume that a certified WAAS GPS could be used as a sole navigation reference under all conditions, but that such was not the case. The manual pointed out that when you file to an IFR destination you may find your only suitable alternate requires VOR/ILS and has no GPS or GPS overlay approach. That would suggest that your VOR would then require a current accuracy check to be used, otherwise you could not legally file the flight.
Not trying further complicate this clearly transitional issue, but I think it even said you had to have an operating VOR/ILS to even file an alternate of any kind.
Maybe someone can clear this up as well.
Regards,
Lee...
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:04 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 12/08/07 |
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Good Morning Lee,
Having a VHF navigation capability will add flexibility, but it is not required if you have a fully qualified TSO C146a box on board.
Obviously, if you have only the "Sole Means" GPS equipment available, you cannot use, as an IFR alternate, an airport that has no GPS approach unless you can arrive at the alternate in good VFR conditions.
There is NO need for any approach capability at the alternate if the weather meets the following conditions.
From the FARs:
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(2) If no instrument approach procedure has been published in part 97 of this chapter and no special instrument approach procedure has been issued by the Administrator to the operator, for the alternate airport, the ceiling and visibility minima are those allowing descent from the MEA, approach, and landing under basic VFR.
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Unfortunately, an awful lot of so called experts tend to add their personal operating procedures to the FARs when they tell others what to do. I suppose I am guilty of that at times, but I sure try hard to really find out what the rules are first.
As a good friend of mine has said. "If you do not know the rules, how ya gonna cheat?"
Happy Skies,
Old Bob
AKA
Bob Siegfried
Ancient Aviator
Stearman N3977A
Brookeridge Air Park LL22
Downers Grove, IL 60516
630 985-8503
In a message dated 12/9/2007 8:36:03 A.M. Central Standard Time, leeloganster(at)gmail.com writes:
Quote: | I was doing a little refresher reading the other day and though I don't have it in front of me right now, I think some of what I read was pertinent to the "IFR instrument check" question. If I am remembering correctly, the FAA IFR Instrument manual contains a discussion of the issue and points out that you might reasonably assume that a certified WAAS GPS could be used as a sole navigation reference under all conditions, but that such was not the case. The manual pointed out that when you file to an IFR destination you may find your only suitable alternate requires VOR/ILS and has no GPS or GPS overlay approach. That would suggest that your VOR would then require a current accuracy check to be used, otherwise you could not legally file the flight.
Not trying further complicate this clearly transitional issue, but I think it even said you had to have an operating VOR/ILS to even file an alternate of any kind.
Maybe someone can clear this up as well.
Regards,
Lee...
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Posted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:17 am Post subject: AeroElectric-List Digest: 10 Msgs - 12/08/07 |
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Lee,
Yee gads, what kind of alternate is that that has only a VOR/ILS approach and no GPS? And no, one of the advantages of the WAAS certified GPS is you can file an alternate that still relies on a GPS approach. With a non-certified GPS, the alternate must be with an approach that does not rely on the GPS.
Chuck
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