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psiegel(at)fuse.net
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

I'm finding it impossible to keep a vacuum driven artificial horizon healthy in the panel of my 180 horse Super Cub.  The new Aspen Avionics all electric Horizon/HSI looks like a great alternative!  And compared to other similar avionics packages, it is very economical!  Anybody have  thoughts on the Aspen unit?



Speaking of economical...while looking at plasma TV's and HD video players the other day, I discovered that they want over a hundred bucks just for the cable that runs between the two units!!!  Is that cable made of unobtainium or what?  I sense a consumer rip-off, but the nice salesperson assure me of the fact that the quality of the picture is dependent on getting the ex$pensive cable!  And I thought avionics stuff was cost intensive!



Paul Siegel  N4431Z

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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: Re: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

Paul,



I agree it looks really teriffic and their stated pricing is competetive with the experimental stuff. Unfortunately they are not producing/shipping them so there is no track record history. They certainly bear watching.

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Milt

agustafson(at)chartermi.n
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:25 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

 	  Quote: 	
		  >>>Speaking of economical...while looking at plasma TV's and HD video 

>>>players the other day, I discovered that they want over a hundred bucks 

>>>just for the cable that runs between the two units!!!  Is that cable 

>>>made of unobtainium or what?  I sense a consumer rip-off, but the nice 

>>>salesperson assure me of the fact that the quality of the picture is 

>>>dependent on getting the ex$pensive cable!  And I thought avionics stuff 

>>>was cost intensive!<<<<<


	


Just a look at an electronics supply catalog will convince you that cable 

and wire are not cheap even the everyday common stuff. Specialty cables are 

ridiculous.



Aaron G.

rv10(at)sinkrate.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 10:11 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

Paul,



If you are referring to an HDMI cable (or any other digital cable for that

matter) save your money.  Try looking for generic ones on

http://www.newegg.com or some similar computer place.  There was a good

article this month in Popular Mechanics that put several cables to the test.

One $15 cable and two $100-300 varieties.  Nobody could tell a difference.

It is all sales hype (for digital signals at least).



Digital signals, such as those sent across HDMI cables, are a stream of

binary 1's and 0's across the cable.  As long as the bits make it from one

end of the cable to the next and the 1's are still 1's and the 0's are still

0's you will get the exact same picture quality regardless of the cable

being used.  



-Ben

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mike109g6(at)insideconnec
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:28 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

Paul,

HDMI cables are outrageous in their price.  Just got a new plasma and went 

through the same disbelief.  1080i is to most lay people just as good as a 

HD video player.  Still need the HDMI cable though but I would hold off on 

the HD video player until the prices become more reasonable.  PS3 or Xbox 

will play HD DVD's, if you have one.

Do you need a NIB Rapco Vac Kit for your Super Cub?  Maybe that is the 

culprit in killing off your AH.  Have one if interested-never installed and 

complete.

Mike H 9A/8A

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Joemotis(at)aol.com
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Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 11:49 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

More of the same hype concerns "Monster cables"

 Monster is right in the amount of hype in my opinion.

  

 Here is a quick cut and paste from Wiki so take it as you will...

  

  [edit]  Controversy 

edit]  Quality and Pricing 

Monster Cable and similar "boutique" cables are a main source of revenue for  retailers of electronics such as DVD players and TVs. While the margins of DVD  players and TVs are usually quite low, the high margins of Monster Cables and  similar products provide important revenue for these retailers. The heavy  marketing and corresponding bundling of Monster Cable and similar products are  de-facto procedures for employees at these resellers. 

Whether Monster cables actually provide better quality sound or video than  generic cables is a highly debated topic among the audio and videophile  communities. Various reviews have reported that listeners and viewers are unable  to tell a difference between substantially higher-priced Monster cables and  inexpensive cables



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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2880

Posted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

I hate to even jump in, considering how OT this all is, but

I found myself with these problems in the past couple weeks too

once I got a HD-TV.  First, check amazon.com for the cables. I

bought far more varied types of cables than I even needed, and

bought a bunch of HDMI-HDMI and HDMI-DVI and S/PDIF and other

cables.  They were dirt cheap.  Well under $10 for pretty much

anything, and they even worked fine!  Then I found out what

really sucks....if you want to tape your favorite shows and

watch them later, it's time to start finding better ways, because

VCR's will suck.  I ended up going with a couple of MyHD MDP-130

cards in some old small form-factor PC's that can record shows

to a hard drive in full HD and play them back later.



Anyway, it's not aviation related, except the first thing I did

when I got things hooked up is cranked up the stereo and played

my DVD's of "Pearl Harbor".   Fun stuff.  HD definitely is one

of those things that it's hard to just jump in a little...you can

easily get swept up into more than you planned.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

do not archive

Ben Westfall wrote:

[quote] 

 

 Paul,

 

 If you are referring to an HDMI cable (or any other digital cable for that

 matter) save your money.  Try looking for generic ones on

 http://www.newegg.com or some similar computer place.  There was a good

 article this month in Popular Mechanics that put several cables to the test.

 One $15 cable and two $100-300 varieties.  Nobody could tell a difference.

 It is all sales hype (for digital signals at least).

 

 Digital signals, such as those sent across HDMI cables, are a stream of

 binary 1's and 0's across the cable.  As long as the bits make it from one

 end of the cable to the next and the 1's are still 1's and the 0's are still

 0's you will get the exact same picture quality regardless of the cable

 being used.  

 

 -Ben

 

 

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rob(at)hyperion-ef.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:38 am Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

In re: HDMI cable



I bought a short (1.5 ft) HDMI cable for US$5.25.  Longer cables are similarly 

inexpensive at http://www.mycablemart.com/

Best regards,



Rob Housman

Irvine, California

Europa XS Tri-Gear

S/N A070

Airframe complete

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mjpnj(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 7:36 pm Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

 	  Quote: 	
		   Speaking of economical...while looking at plasma TV's and HD video players the 

 other day, I discovered that they want over a hundred bucks just for the cable 

 that runs between the two units!!!  Is that cable made of unobtainium or what? 

 I sense a consumer rip-off, but the nice salesperson assure me of the fact 

 that the quality of the picture is dependent on getting the ex$pensive cable! 

 And I thought avionics stuff was cost intensive!


	


Yeah well, the salesperson was just repeating what she was told. Since hdmi is digital

the picture either works or it doesn't. I buy the cheapest hdmi and dvi cables I can

find. 



Fyi, sometimes you can walk over to the computer section of the store and find the

same cable marketed as a monitor cable for much less money.



c'ya,

Mike



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mjpnj(at)yahoo.com
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Posted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 1:29 pm Post subject: Aspen Avionics panel: Too good to be true?

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		   PS3 or Xbox will play HD DVD's, if you have one.


	


They play different hd formats. PS3 at $399 is the cheapest blu-ray player.

You can buy an add on hd-dvd drive to the xbox 360 but cheap(er) dedicated 

hd-dvd players are already available (around $150 I think).





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