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 Posted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:11 pm Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
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mr.gsun+rv-list(at)gmail.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:24 am Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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Personally, I haven't found that the stock heat source is anywhere hot enough to overheat my legs. Fact is, I'd like to get more heat for our RV-7 up here in Washington. No warm/cold mixer box. Just pull knob full on and leave it. Wear good socks & sweatshirt. Then we fly and have FUN!!
On 12/25/07, Paul Besing <pbesing(at)yahoo.com (pbesing(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:[quote] Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD "Sunny"
Arizona
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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 9:40 am Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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That is surprising. My heater would burn my legs to a frinzy if I pulled it full on. I use about two clicks on the heat cable to get plenty of heat on the feet. I have to stuff rags in around the canopy sides to keep the cold air out to be comfortable however. Your heat must come in somewhere different than lower half of the firewall.
Tim
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:21 AM
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Subject: Re: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing
Personally, I haven't found that the stock heat source is anywhere hot enough to overheat my legs. Fact is, I'd like to get more heat for our RV-7 up here in Washington. No warm/cold mixer box. Just pull knob full on and leave it. Wear good socks & sweatshirt. Then we fly and have FUN!!
On 12/25/07, Paul Besing <pbesing(at)yahoo.com (pbesing(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD "Sunny"
Arizona
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mr.gsun+rv-list(at)gmail.
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 10:36 am Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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I've got cold air coming in from the wing roots from up the control stick boot and around the edges of the seats. Not objectionable but it is there just the same. Keeps my hand from getting sweaty on the stick. Just don't get much heat, temperature is warm (just) and airflow is certainly there, but not a blast of hot air by any means. Greg
On 12/26/07, Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com (n616tb(at)btsapps.com)> wrote:[quote]
That is surprising. My heater would burn my legs to a frinzy if I pulled it full on. I use about two clicks on the heat cable to get plenty of heat on the feet. I have to stuff rags in around the canopy sides to keep the cold air out to be comfortable however. Your heat must come in somewhere different than lower half of the firewall.
Tim
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Williams
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Subject: Re: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing
Personally, I haven't found that the stock heat source is anywhere hot enough to overheat my legs. Fact is, I'd like to get more heat for our RV-7 up here in Washington. No warm/cold mixer box. Just pull knob full on and leave it. Wear good socks & sweatshirt. Then we fly and have FUN!!
On 12/25/07, Paul Besing <pbesing(at)yahoo.com (pbesing(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD "Sunny"
Arizona
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n616tb(at)btsapps.com
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:06 am Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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Hi Greg,
I failed to put the aileron boots in before I connected everything together so I get some cold air here also. When it is cold, we fly with a towel around the bottom portion of the sticks to block it out. I purchased the boots from Abbey at Flight Line Interiors, and one day I will get them installed.
Tim
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Greg Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 12:33 PM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: Re: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing
I've got cold air coming in from the wing roots from up the control stick boot and around the edges of the seats. Not objectionable but it is there just the same. Keeps my hand from getting sweaty on the stick. Just don't get much heat, temperature is warm (just) and airflow is certainly there, but not a blast of hot air by any means. Greg
On 12/26/07, Tim Bryan <n616tb(at)btsapps.com (n616tb(at)btsapps.com)> wrote:
That is surprising. My heater would burn my legs to a frinzy if I pulled it full on. I use about two clicks on the heat cable to get plenty of heat on the feet. I have to stuff rags in around the canopy sides to keep the cold air out to be comfortable however. Your heat must come in somewhere different than lower half of the firewall.
Tim
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:21 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing
Personally, I haven't found that the stock heat source is anywhere hot enough to overheat my legs. Fact is, I'd like to get more heat for our RV-7 up here in Washington. No warm/cold mixer box. Just pull knob full on and leave it. Wear good socks & sweatshirt. Then we fly and have FUN!!
On 12/25/07, Paul Besing <pbesing(at)yahoo.com (pbesing(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD "Sunny"
Arizona
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sbuc(at)hiwaay.net
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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Greg Williams wrote:
| Quote: | I've got cold air coming in from the wing roots from up the control stick
boot and around the edges of the seats. Not objectionable but it is there
just the same. Keeps my hand from getting sweaty on the stick. Just don't
get much heat, temperature is warm (just) and airflow is certainly there,
but not a blast of hot air by any means. Greg
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Very easy to reduce the cold air from the wing roots, either with a
commercially-made set of aileron pushrod boots or with the home-made
variety:
http://thervjournal.com/cold.html#boots
Sam Buchanan
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| Posted: Wed Dec 26, 2007 12:05 pm Post subject: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing |
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Not sure if this'll help, but here it is FWIW. My listle 2-place Grumman has 2" scat tubing from the ramp just behind the right cowl air inlet. This feeds the heat muff, which then feeds the heat control flapper on the firewall (as I recall). The factory covered up 1/2 of the opening in the ramp to decrease the amount of air available for heat.
However, on my Traumahawk, I had to remove the scat tubing from the muff to the firewall valve because it wouldn't seal and really hot air would overheat my right foot. Instead of really fixing the problem, I covered it up (which I chastise others for) because the valve isn't in a good spot to work on it.
So, I see two remedies here. Put a 'Y' in the heat scat and an adjustable 'gate' to control the amount of OUTSIDE air that mixes with the hot air from the muff and adjust it over a few test flights to get the right mix ...... or take the air from OUTSIDE to feed the muff (instead of from inside the lower cowl .... as mentioned below.
Just thinking out loud ..... I'm making a lot of assumptions since I'm nowhere near even thinking about heat!!!
Linn
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That is surprising. My heater would burn my legs to a frinzy if I pulled it full on. I use about two clicks on the heat cable to get plenty of heat on the feet. I have to stuff rags in around the canopy sides to keep the cold air out to be comfortable however. Your heat must come in somewhere different than lower half of the firewall.
Tim
From: owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com) [mailto:owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com (owner-rv-list-server(at)matronics.com)] On Behalf Of Greg Williams
Sent: Wednesday, December 26, 2007 11:21 AM
To: rv-list(at)matronics.com (rv-list(at)matronics.com)
Subject: Re: RV-List: RV-4 Cabin Heat Routing
Personally, I haven't found that the stock heat source is anywhere hot enough to overheat my legs. Fact is, I'd like to get more heat for our RV-7 up here in Washington. No warm/cold mixer box. Just pull knob full on and leave it. Wear good socks & sweatshirt. Then we fly and have FUN!!
On 12/25/07, Paul Besing <pbesing(at)yahoo.com (pbesing(at)yahoo.com)> wrote:
Anyone come up with a good place to run the duct for the cabin heat? Just about anywhere up front will burn my legs, and haven't quite figured a way to get the heat throughout the cabin. Was thinking of using the warm/cold mixer box that Van's sells, and could then run heat through the vents. Thoughts?
Paul Besing
RV-4 N73DD "Sunny"
Arizona
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