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 Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:09 pm Post subject: Lightning gas tanks/// extending range/// Caribbean Fuel $$ |
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Charles,
I've had a lot of friends flying around the Caribbean and Netherland Antilles and never heard of anybody being greated with machine guns. I'm not saying that it has never happened, just not regularly. Costa Rica is a very poor place though. I work at a company that does International Trip Support, mostly for private and charter aircraft. If you're really worried about it contact one of these guys and do a fuel and or ground handling only request. I work for Baseops International, which is owned by World Fuel and owns Avcard. I talk to St. Thomas on a nearly daily basis. When I was in college we'd fly way out in the Bahama islands and never had problems to where we had to bribe or anything. What we did run into is maintenance issues. Blow out a tire on a Cessna on landing, gotta fly another one in to replace it. I know that it would not be legal in the US to bring in your own auto fuel unless the airport specifically authorized it in their official airport rules (has a different name but forget it now) Being international it might be just fine to bring auto fuel though. Use your best judgement but I'd about fill some jugs, fuel when nobody is looking and go for it! As far as $5 for avgas on islands, where do you live at? It's right at that here in TX! When flying around Central America and the Caribbean islands you also have to watch out for permits. Maybe that's why some of the horror stories are from. You have landing permits, overflight permits, customs, etc. Overflight of Cuba doesn't mean over the land or even off the coast like what it is in the US. Panama has a wide spread ADIZ which extends many times the size of the entire country. My company can arrange all of this, plus contract fuel if you're interested. See: http://www.wfscorp.com/wfscorp/services/aviation_fp.html and see here: http://www.baseops.com/ You can do all your flight planning and set up your own stuff, but run the risk of violating airspaces and such. We can track you when you're in the air and arrange services to accomodate accordingly. With our huge databases and personal contacts it is quicker and easier than if you were to do it. One of the guys that I work with has some friends that are run a ground handling supervisory company in that part of the world and makes it easier to set up and arrange than an individual. We also keep monthly Cuba overflight permissions on file for those that can't wait. Just a thought, do your homework, lock your plane, and fly safe. Brian W.
| Quote: | Date: Sun, 13 Jan 2008 20:27:40 -0800
From: cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com
Subject: RE: Lightning gas tanks/// extending range/// Caribbean Fuel $$$
To: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
--> Lightning-List message posted by: Charles Dewey <cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Anyone out there ever flown from Fl. deep into the
Caribbean? Trying to do some research and get
prepared. Some threads say that be prepared to pay
lots of bribes and $5 avgas , even if you're just
stopping for fuel, plus big $ like 45$ fee for
bringing the fuel truck to your plane. Dominican
Republic is said to be bad; they will greet you with a
machine gun and an extended hand. Does anyone remember
the name of the collapsible fuel tank they had (at) Sun n
Fun 1 or 2 years ago. It greatly extended range;
thought that it would be a good idea to avoid landing
too much enroute to St. Thomas. If I remember
correctly, it could be stored in the cabin and had a
line that somehow went to your gas tank. Also, anyone
know of a way to get more fuel creatively? I guess I'm
too late to get the Xtra capacity tanks from arion now
that my plane is done. The good thing about the
Lightning is b/c it taked 93 super auto gas, it should
be easy to get on any island. I've read horror stories
of people landing on an island only to find out the
avgas won't arrive for a week. Are airports that
sell avgas allowing of people to haul in a 20 gallon
jug of auto gas- or is that something not frowned upon
at airports? Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
>
> I agree! I would've loved to have been able to do
> that kind of a thing with my dad when I was young.
> I remember several times working on tractors,
> combines, and cotton pickers back in the day with
> him when I was young and loved that. I still would
> really love to build a plane.
>
> On the previous topic about the Odyssey and the
> Dynon. I know the Dynon that we had in the
> prototype would get lost if turing one way and then
> whipping it the other way. It was like an
> electronic version of a gyro tumbling. I've also
> heard of that particular version getting lost in
> turbulence. Not knocking Dynon as I've only had
> experience with that one model. I believe the
> reasoning was that it only had a dual axis solid
> state gyro where the GR had a 3 axis. I have no
> idea about the Odyssey and what it's capable of. I
> know that the GR stuff had all of the same listed
> usability and programibility as far as I can recall.
> One added benefit of using that equipment is also
> that the Arion folks know that system and can help
> troubleshoot or can get it replaced easily. Just a
> few little thoughts on panel layout. Brian W.
>
>
> From: N1BZRich(at)aol.comDate: Sun, 13 Jan 2008
> 22:44:52 -0500Subject: Re: Lightning-List:
> StartedTo: lightning-list(at)matronics.com
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> In a message dated 1/13/2008 10:05:27 A.M. Eastern
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> However, with a wife, three kids, a dog and a full
> time job, my ambition is to fly in spring 2009.
>
> Great, Colin. I hope it becomes a family project so
> that they feel they are part of the process. Don't
> know how old your kids are, but even at a young age
> they can do some things like hand you tools. And
> this spring of 2009 is certainly a realistic goal.
> Buz
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| Posted: Sun Jan 13, 2008 9:21 pm Post subject: Lightning gas tanks/// extending range/// Caribbean Fuel $$ |
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Brian, Thanks for hte tip; I'll file tghis email away
until I need it. Charles
--- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com> wrote:
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Charles,
I've had a lot of friends flying around the
Caribbean and Netherland Antilles and never heard of
anybody being greated with machine guns. I'm not
saying that it has never happened, just not
regularly. Costa Rica is a very poor place though.
I work at a company that does International Trip
Support, mostly for private and charter aircraft.
If you're really worried about it contact one of
these guys and do a fuel and or ground handling only
request. I work for Baseops International, which is
owned by World Fuel and owns Avcard. I talk to St.
Thomas on a nearly daily basis. When I was in
college we'd fly way out in the Bahama islands and
never had problems to where we had to bribe or
anything. What we did run into is maintenance
issues. Blow out a tire on a Cessna on landing,
gotta fly another one in to replace it. I know that
it would not be legal in the US to bring in your own
auto fuel unless the airport specifically authorized
it in their official airport rules (has a different
name but forget it now) Being international it
might be just fine to bring auto fuel though. Use
your best judgement but I'd about fill some jugs,
fuel when nobody is looking and go for it! As far
as $5 for avgas on islands, where do you live at?
It's right at that here in TX! When flying around
Central America and the Caribbean islands you also
have to watch out for permits. Maybe that's why
some of the horror stories are from. You have
landing permits, overflight permits, customs, etc.
Overflight of Cuba doesn't mean over the land or
even off the coast like what it is in the US.
Panama has a wide spread ADIZ which extends many
times the size of the entire country. My company
can arrange all of this, plus contract fuel if
you're interested. See:
http://www.wfscorp.com/wfscorp/services/aviation_fp.html
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| Quote: | and see here: http://www.baseops.com/ You can do
all your flight planning and set up your own stuff,
but run the risk of violating airspaces and such.
We can track you when you're in the air and arrange
services to accomodate accordingly. With our huge
databases and personal contacts it is quicker and
easier than if you were to do it. One of the guys
that I work with has some friends that are run a
ground handling supervisory company in that part of
the world and makes it easier to set up and arrange
than an individual. We also keep monthly Cuba
overflight permissions on file for those that can't
wait. Just a thought, do your homework, lock your
plane, and fly safe. Brian W. > Date: Sun, 13 Jan
2008 20:27:40 -0800> From: cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>
Subject: RE: Lightning gas tanks///
extending range/// Caribbean Fuel $$$> To:
lightning-list(at)matronics.com> > --> Lightning-List
message posted by: Charles Dewey
<cdewey6969(at)yahoo.com>> > Anyone out there ever
flown from Fl. deep into the> Caribbean? Trying to
do some research and get> prepared. Some threads say
that be prepared to pay> lots of bribes and $5 avgas
, even if you're just> stopping for fuel, plus big $
like 45$ fee for> bringing the fuel truck to your
plane. Dominican> Republic is said to be bad; they
will greet you with a> machine gun and an extended
hand. Does anyone remember> the name of the
collapsible fuel tank they had (at) Sun n> Fun 1 or 2
years ago. It greatly extended range;> thought that
it would be a good idea to avoid landing> too much
enroute to St. Thomas. If I remember> correctly, it
could be stored in the cabin and had a> line that
somehow went to your gas tank. Also, anyone> know of
a way to get more fuel creatively? I guess I'm> too
late to get the Xtra capacity tanks from arion now>
that my plane is done. The good thing about the>
Lightning is b/c it taked 93 super auto gas, it
should> be easy to get on any island. I've read
horror stories> of people landing on an island only
to find out the> avgas won't arrive for a week. Are
airports that> sell avgas allowing of people to haul
in a 20 gallon> jug of auto gas- or is that
something not frowned upon> at airports? Charles> >
> > > --- Brian Whittingham <dashvii(at)hotmail.com>
wrote:> > > > > I agree! I would've loved to have
been able to do> > that kind of a thing with my dad
when I was young. > > I remember several times
working on tractors,> > combines, and cotton pickers
back in the day with> > him when I was young and
loved that. I still would> > really love to build a
plane. > > > > On the previous topic about the
Odyssey and the> > Dynon. I know the Dynon that we
had in the> > prototype would get lost if turing one
way and then> > whipping it the other way. It was
like an> > electronic version of a gyro tumbling.
I've also> > heard of that particular version
getting lost in> > turbulence. Not knocking Dynon as
I've only had> > experience with that one model. I
believe the> > reasoning was that it only had a dual
axis solid> > state gyro where the GR had a 3 axis.
I have no> > idea about the Odyssey and what it's
capable of. I> > know that the GR stuff had all of
the same listed> > usability and programibility as
far as I can recall.> > One added benefit of using
that equipment is also> > that the Arion folks know
that system and can help> > troubleshoot or can get
it replaced easily. Just a> > few little thoughts on
panel layout. Brian W.> > > > > > From:
N1BZRich(at)aol.comDate: Sun, 13 Jan 2008> > 22:44:52
-0500Subject: Re: Lightning-List:> > StartedTo:
lightning-list(at)matronics.com> > > > > > In a message
dated 1/13/2008 10:05:27 A.M. Eastern> > Standard
Time, cjk129(at)cox.net writes:> > However, with a
wife, three kids, a dog and a full> > time job, my
ambition is to fly in spring 2009. > > > > Great,
Colin. I hope it becomes a family project so> > that
they feel they are part of the process. Don't> >
know how old your kids are, but even at a young age>
> they can do some things like hand you tools. And>
> this spring of 2009 is certainly a realistic
goal.> > Buz> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
> > > > > > > > > > > > Start the year off right.
Easy ways to stay in shape> > in the new year. > > >
> > > > >>
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