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barry.collman(at)air-brit
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Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Earth Quake

Hi Jim,

  

 That's nice of you to enquire.

  

 No damage here, but I think the centre was a  reasonable distance away, about 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow  flies.

 Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.

  

 Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep  so she was downstairs when it happened.

 She remarked this morning that our two  budgerigars were going ape at some stage and it turns out that it was just  before the tremor.

 Normally, once they're covered up for the night,  we never hear anything from them.

 "They" say that some animals can 'predict'  the tremor just before it happens. Look as if it's true!

  

 Very Best Regards,

 Barry

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:19 am Post subject: Earth Quake

Well, if my joints can predict the weather, then I suppose  a bird can predict a tremor.

 

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry  Collman

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 8:54 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Earth  Quake

 

 Hi Jim,

  

 That's nice of you to enquire.

  

 No damage here, but I think the centre was a  reasonable distance away, about 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow  flies.

 Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.

  

 Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep  so she was downstairs when it happened.

 She remarked this morning that our two  budgerigars were going ape at some stage and it turns out that it was just  before the tremor.

 Normally, once they're covered up for the night,  we never hear anything from them.

 "They" say that some animals can 'predict'  the tremor just before it happens. Look as if it's true!

  

 Very Best Regards,

 Barry

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jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 9:55 am Post subject: Earth Quake

Barry, Glad to hear you are ok. That is interesting about the birds.  

Jim  

         

  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Barry Collman

 Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2008 10:54 AM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: Earth Quake  

  

     

Hi Jim,  

    

   

    

That's nice of you to enquire.  

    

   

    

No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.  

    

Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.  

    

   

    

Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when it happened.  

    

She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.  

    

Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from them.  

    

"They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it happens. Look as if it's true!  

    

   

    

Very Best Regards,  

    

Barry  

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andrew.bridget(at)telus.n
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:01 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting earthquakes... 

there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago where 

a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals hear 

the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a tremor in 

the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things like 

this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that should 

get the list active again!  



Regards,

Andrew 



Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk>:



[quote] Hi Jim,

 

 That's nice of you to enquire.

 

 No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about

 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.

 Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.

 

 Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when it

 happened.

 She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some

 stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.

 Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from

 them.

 "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it happens.

 Look as if it's true!

 

 Very Best Regards,

 Barry

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 1:10 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Andrew & Bridget...  Life is no coincidence...





David Owens

Aerial Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 2:01 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

It may get things started, but I think most will agree with you.

Jim Addington

500A



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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 4:12 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

If there's a higher power guiding evolution, how do you explain professional 

wrestling?



Or Milt?



Steve



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bobf(at)feldtman.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Feb 27, 2008 5:21 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Let's just say the evolutionists are the only ones who deny the second law of thermodynamics. (See we are more of a physics crowd here). 

i.e. they believe things evolve into more complex, arranged, better systems. - I don't believe that. I do believe that my garage ends up dirtier and more messed up every weekend without my input!

There is a theory about homing pigeons using magnetic flux lines to find home (my dad use to race them). and thus birds/ migration may be related. Certainly I could see how a tremblor, or actual quake could disrupt the magnetic flux briefly. now that makes sense to me. But we don't understand that any better than we do genomics (which I am working on in the carotid bifurcation in man).

bobf

500B

On 2/27/08, Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net (andrew.bridget(at)telus.net)> wrote:[quote]  --> Commander-List message posted by: Andrew & Bridget Watson <andrew.bridget(at)telus.net (andrew.bridget(at)telus.net)>

 Glad you're all OK, Barry. Birds and other animals predicting earthquakes...

  there was a National Geographic/Discovery Channel program on a while ago where

 a couple of theories were put forward - one that the birds and animals hear

  the 'infrasound' just before the 'quake, and another that there is a tremor in

  the magnetic field that precedes the shock. All very interesting; things like

 this make me wonder how life could have evolved by chance. There - that should

  get the list active again!  

 Regards,

 Andrew

 Quoting Barry Collman <barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk (barry.collman(at)air-britain.co.uk)>:

 > Hi Jim,

 >

 > That's nice of you to enquire.

 >

 > No damage here, but I think the centre was a reasonable distance away, about

  > 165 miles by road, but probably less as the crow flies.

  > Was evidently 5.2 magnitude.

 >

 > Strangely, my wife Elaine couldn't get to sleep so she was downstairs when it

 > happened.

  > She remarked this morning that our two budgerigars were going ape at some

  > stage and it turns out that it was just before the tremor.

 > Normally, once they're covered up for the night, we never hear anything from

  > them.

 > "They" say that some animals can 'predict' the tremor just before it happens.

  > Look as if it's true!

 >

 > Very Best Regards,

 > Barry

 >   ---

dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 12:03 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Robert...

  

 We quantified the mean of the IMT for 12 sites of the  extracranial carotid arteries (common carotid, bifurcation, internal  carotid, near and far walls, and left and right sides [mean  aggregate]) as well as for various combinations of sites (eg,  segment-specific means, far walls only, maximum of any site)  with or free of coronary artery disease. Models including age  and all the indexes of IMT identified the mean aggregate as the only  variable independently associated with the status of coronary  atherosclerosis for the group as a whole. Next most strongly  correlated was the mean common plus bifurcation. When classification  algorithms were tested for ability to correctly classify case  patients and control subjects, the mean bifurcation, mean common  plus bifurcation, and mean aggregate were most strongly related  to case-control status; however, the predictive power of the  mean common was also strong.  

Conclusions These data support use of the mean aggregate  extracranial carotid IMT for correlation with the status of coronary  atherosclerosis; however, the data also support use of the mean  common plus bifurcation, since there is little increase in predictive  power of the mean aggregate over this index. Use of the common  carotid alone is also justifiable and may be preferable for certain  analyses. 

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 4:39 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

See? Aerial survey pilots are better rounded than  you might think.......

  

 David, you don't write poetry also, do  you?

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bobf(at)feldtman.com
Guest

Posted: Thu Feb 28, 2008 6:14 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Certainly not commander airplane stuff - but shows that commander pilots and buffs are smart well rounded people! Yep - familiar with IMT - we are studying  IMT in pediatrics - and related to the flow divider and shear stress areas, are doing the genomics looking at up and downregulation of the genes (genespring array about 24,000 genes). We indeed are fearfully and wonderfully made!

 

Not nearly as exciting as flying my 500B down to 250ft with my new 400W WAAS coupled to my new STEC autopilot!

 

I wish some of our politicians were better rounded! Oops shouldn't have put that, that'll really spin this off the bearings! Oh well, people were complaining the commander list was too quiet. chuckle.

 

bobf



On 2/28/08, David Owens <dowens(at)aerialviewpoint.com (dowens(at)aerialviewpoint.com)> wrote:[quote] Robert...

 

We quantified the mean of the IMT for 12 sites of the  extracranial carotid arteries (common carotid, bifurcation, internal  carotid, near and far walls, and left and right sides [mean  aggregate]) as well as for various combinations of sites (eg,  segment-specific means, far walls only, maximum of any site)  with or free of coronary artery disease. Models including age  and all the indexes of IMT identified the mean aggregate as the only  variable independently associated with the status of coronary  atherosclerosis for the group as a whole. Next most strongly  correlated was the mean common plus bifurcation. When classification  algorithms were tested for ability to correctly classify case  patients and control subjects, the mean bifurcation, mean common  plus bifurcation, and mean aggregate were most strongly related  to case-control status; however, the predictive power of the  mean common was also strong. 

 Conclusions These data support use of the mean aggregate  extracranial carotid IMT for correlation with the status of coronary  atherosclerosis; however, the data also support use of the mean  common plus bifurcation, since there is little increase in predictive  power of the mean aggregate over this index. Use of the common  carotid alone is also justifiable and may be preferable for certain  analyses.  

 

 

 

 

David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 1:37 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Steve...

  

 Mary had a little lamb... his fleas were white as  snow...

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:24 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Robert...

  

 Sorry, thought you were discussing ???    hehehe

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Fri Feb 29, 2008 5:39 pm Post subject: Earth Quake

Mary had a little lamb and the doctor  fainted.

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David  Owens

Sent: Friday, February 29, 2008 11:34 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Earth  Quake

 

 Steve...

  

 Mary had a little lamb... his fleas were white as  snow...

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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