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				 Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 2:41 pm    Post subject: Clarification---Certified Engines & Experimental aircraft. | 
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				Because of all the comments and questions in response to the posting I made  on the Continental O-200, it became clear I needed to find out what is correct.  What I did find out was some of what I was told was right and some was  wrong, even though the information came from people heavily involved in  aviation including certified A & P's. I am making the assumption that  Joe Norris at EAA headquarters knows the right answer. I spoke with Joe  today, below is the questions I ask along with his answers. 
   
  Question: Is a certified aircraft engine still certified after it is  installed in an experimental aircraft?
  Answer: No,it is no longer certified.  (George, you were right, I was  told the opposite by an A &P)
   
  Question: If that is the case, then what about the 25 hour and 40 hour test  phase?
  Answer: To get the 25 hour fly off you must prove it is a certified engine  including the correct prop and all accessories (carb,  starter, mags,etc) for that specific engine. The example he gave  was: If it came off a Cessna 150, the prop has to be the same pitch  and diameter designated for that application for anything else it will  be assigned 40 hours. Once the inspection is done, the engine is no longer  certified.
   
   
   
   
   
   
  Question: Who can work on the engine at that point?
  Answer: Anyone when it is on a  experimental aircraft  (E-AB.)
   
  Question: When can you work on the engine or make changes to the certified  engine.
  Answer: Immediately after the inspector leaves.
   
  Question: Now that it is no longer certified, is it necessary to take the  data plate off?
  Answer: No, actually it is best to leave it in place.
   
  Question: When buying a used aircraft engine, how would someone like  me find about AD's on a particular engine?
  Answer: www.faa.gov   1. Do  a search on make and model  2. Ask around a local EAA Chapter, most  IAs have a CD  Rom they can use to look up information on any aircraft  engine.  
   
  Question: What about the 5 hour test flight phase.
  Answer: That was only for the so-called "fat ultralight" it has  expired..
   
  Thanks to all, your response has pointed out the need for me to  look for better answers. 
   
  Clyde Barcus
 601 XL, Continental Powered
 
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				 Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 8:15 pm    Post subject: Clarification---Certified Engines & Experimental aircraft. | 
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				Clyde,
 Thanks for doing the leg work.
 Darrell
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 On Mon, Mar 3, 2008 at 2:34 PM, Clyde Barcus <barcusc(at)comcast.net (barcusc(at)comcast.net)> wrote:
  [quote]       Because of all the comments and questions in response to the posting I made  on the Continental O-200, it became clear I needed to find out what is correct.  What I did find out was some of what I was told was right and some was  wrong, even though the information came from people heavily involved in  aviation including certified A & P's. I am making the assumption that  Joe Norris at EAA headquarters knows the right answer. I spoke with Joe  today, below is the questions I ask along with his answers. 
   
  Question: Is a certified aircraft engine still certified after it is  installed in an experimental aircraft?
  Answer: No,it is no longer certified.  (George, you were right, I was  told the opposite by an A &P)
   
  Question: If that is the case, then what about the 25 hour and 40 hour test  phase?
  Answer: To get the 25 hour fly off you must prove it is a certified engine  including the correct prop and all accessories (carb,  starter, mags,etc) for that specific engine. The example he gave  was: If it came off a Cessna 150, the prop has to be the same pitch  and diameter designated for that application for anything else it will  be assigned 40 hours. Once the inspection is done, the engine is no longer  certified.
   
   
   
   
   
   
  Question: Who can work on the engine at that point?
  Answer: Anyone when it is on a  experimental aircraft  (E-AB.)
   
  Question: When can you work on the engine or make changes to the certified  engine.
  Answer: Immediately after the inspector leaves.
   
  Question: Now that it is no longer certified, is it necessary to take the  data plate off?
  Answer: No, actually it is best to leave it in place.
   
  Question: When buying a used aircraft engine, how would someone like  me find about AD's on a particular engine?
  Answer: www.faa.gov   1. Do  a search on make and model  2. Ask around a local EAA Chapter, most  IAs have a CD  Rom they can use to look up information on any aircraft  engine.  
   
  Question: What about the 5 hour test flight phase.
  Answer: That was only for the so-called "fat ultralight" it has  expired..
   
  Thanks to all, your response has pointed out the need for me to  look for better answers. 
   
  Clyde Barcus
 601 XL, Continental Powered
 
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