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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:27 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

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     Anyone have part numbers and  source for wing tank fuel pump and selector switch? I would prefer HD/HDS part  specifications, but suppose XL would work.

     Thanks.

 Bill Naumuk

Townville, Pa.

HDS  Fuse/Corvair

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gboothe5(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 1:56 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

Bill,  

   

The part # for the ONE facet fuel pump that I received is 40105. I received no switches, probably because I only got one pump (no need to switch). If I needed to turn off the pump I could just yank out the wire….    

Gary Boothe 

 Cool, CA 

 601 HDSTD  

   

        

  

From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk

 Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:25 PM

 To: zenith list

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    Anyone have part numbers and source for wing tank fuel pump and selector switch? I would prefer HD/HDS part specifications, but suppose XL would work.  

    

    Thanks.  

    

Bill Naumuk

 Townville, Pa.

 HDS Fuse/Corvair  

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naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 2:23 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

Gary-

     At least you got one. I have an  e-mail in to Zenith.

                                                                 Bill

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jlatimer1(at)cox.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 4:54 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

I'm building an HDS with wing locker tanks.  Like  Gary, I received only one fuel pump (Facet 40105) with my kit and no selector  valve.  I purchase 2 additional 40105's and have installed them in the  center wing section close to the fuel tank outlets.  I then ran hoses into  the fuselage and tee'd the tanks together.  From there I ran a line to the  header tank.  I know most of you don't like header tanks, but this is my  plan.  

  

 I have two switches, one for each pump.  My plan is to  use the locker tanks to fill the header tank when needed.  I turn on the  right tank first and then the left tank to fill the header.  This way I can  help to balance tha plane right to left with fuel weight.  The Facet's have  a check valve on the out, so I should be able to run one and the check valve on  the other one whould keep from only pumpling fuel from each locker  tank.

  

 Jerry

 Chandler AZ

 601 HDS 912

 installing motor now



   From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Gary  Boothe

Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 2:54 PM

To:  zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: RE: Zenith-List:  Pump+Switch

 

  

Bill, 

  

The part # for the ONE  facet fuel pump that I received is 40105. I received no switches, probably  because I only got one pump (no need to switch). If I needed to turn off the  pump I could just yank out the wire….  

Gary Boothe 

Cool,  CA 

601  HDSTD 

 

    

 

From:  owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill Naumuk

Sent: Saturday, March 08, 2008 1:25  PM

To: zenith list

Subject: Zenith-List:  Pump+Switch

 

   

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    Anyone have part  numbers and source for wing tank fuel pump and selector switch? I would prefer  HD/HDS part specifications, but suppose XL would  work.

  

     Thanks.

  

Bill Naumuk

Townville, Pa.

HDS  Fuse/Corvair

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grs-pms(at)comcast.net
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Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 5:20 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

My (unfinished) HD is plumbed the same way.  I  have a gauge for each wing tank and indicator lights for each wing tank  pump.

  

 George Swinford

  

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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 6:10 pm Post subject: Re: Pump+Switch

Bill:



I did mine a little different than most and it works very well.  I use two pumps - one near each tank and two gauges with little green lights below them to indicate which pump is pumping.  I use an on-on switch so one pump must be on all the time.  I use a FAcet Purolator Posi-Flo pump which is an upgrade from what ZAC supplies I believe.  Here's some info.



http://www.facet-purolator.com/mcl/media/technology/hd_pdfs/Posi-Flo_sheet.pdf



You can see my sideways switch and two gauges and little green lights just above the red BRS handle in this picture:



http://www.cooknwithgas.com/6_5_06_Panel.JPG



The pumps are pretty quiet when they are pumping fuel but when they run out, they get really loud.



Scott Laughlin

60XL Finished and Flying

I did an hour of flying today in really windy conditions

Terry Phillips

Joined: 11 Jan 2006
Posts: 346
Location: Corvallis, MT

Posted: Sat Mar 08, 2008 10:20 pm Post subject: Pump+Switch

Hey Scott



I liked your toggle switch guard on the pump switch. Nice touch. I was 

considering the same thing for my pump switch. Are those the ones that 

Perihelion Design sells? Do you think they are worthwhile? The pump switch 

seems like an appropriate place to use them.



Terry



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At 06:10 PM 3/8/2008 -0800, you wrote:

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		  Bill:



I did mine a little different than most and it works very well.  I use two 

pumps - one near each tank and two gauges with little green lights below 

them to indicate which pump is pumping.  I use an on-on switch so one pump 

must be on all the time.  I use a FAcet Purolator Posi-Flo pump which is 

an upgrade from what ZAC supplies I believe.  Here's some info.



http://www.facet-purolator.com/mcl/media/technology/hd_pdfs/Posi-Flo_sheet.pdf



You can see my sideways switch and two gauges and little green lights just 

above the red BRS handle in this picture:



http://www.cooknwithgas.com/6_5_06_Panel.JPG



The pumps are pretty quiet when they are pumping fuel but when they run 

out, they get really loud.



Scott Laughlin

60XL Finished and Flying

I did an hour of flying today in really windy conditions


	




Terry Phillips

ttp44~at~rkymtn.net

Corvallis MT

601XL/Jab 3300 s .. l .. o .. o .. w build kit - Tail, flaps, & ailerons 

are done; working on the wings

http://www.mykitlog.com/N47TP/

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Terry Phillips
Corvallis, MT
ttp44<at>rkymtn.net
Zenith 601XL/Jab 3300 slow build kit - Tail feathers done; working on the wings.

naumuk(at)alltel.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 5:50 am Post subject: Pump+Switch

Jerry-

     You lost me when you said you  purchased 2 additional pumps. Does that mean that you're using 3 pumps? I  too am using the small 8 gal header tank and that puzzles me. There's an outlet  at the bottom but no inlet fittings, and a small tube at the top I assume  is a vent. Did you have to mount your own inlet  fittings? 

     Also, there's a huge difference  in available selector valves, the generic ACS for about $40 or the name brand  for over $200. There's a disclaimer saying the generic valve isn't FAA approved,  but I find it hard to believe ACS would sell anything unsafe. Which are you  using?

                                                        Bill

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cookwithgas

Joined: 06 Nov 2007
Posts: 159

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 6:22 am Post subject: Re: Pump+Switch

Terry:



Yes, they are the space shuttle switch guards from Periheliondesign.com and are really nice.  Light weight and well made.  



Scott Laughlin

601XL Finished & Flying

www.cooknwithgas.com

jlatimer1(at)cox.net
Guest

Posted: Sun Mar 09, 2008 7:28 am Post subject: Pump+Switch

Sorry about the confusion.

  

 I am using 3 pumps.  One pump that goes from the  header tank to the engine.  And two pumps in the center wing section.   These 2 pumps will be used as transfer pumps.  They will be used to  transfer fuel from the locker to the header tank.  I also have an 8 gallon  header tank.  My header tank has 2 welded fittings at the top, and two on  the bottom.  I will use one of the top fittings as an inlet for the  transferred fuel.  The other one is suppose to be used for the old style  Zenith fuel sight glass fuel gauge.  The center bottom fitting will go  through a shutoff valve, then gasolator, then electric fuel pump, and then to  the Rotax mechanical fuel pump.  The second bottom fitting is suppose to be  used as the second fitting required to make the sight glass fuel gauge.  In  other words you hook some transparent tubing between one of the top fittings and  the bottom side fitting and this becomes the fuel gauge.

  

 Hope this helps

 Jerry



   From: owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-zenith-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Bill  Naumuk

Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 6:47 AM

To:  zenith-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: Re: Zenith-List:  Pump+Switch

 

 Jerry-

     You lost me when you said you  purchased 2 additional pumps. Does that mean that you're using 3 pumps? I  too am using the small 8 gal header tank and that puzzles me. There's an outlet  at the bottom but no inlet fittings, and a small tube at the top I assume  is a vent. Did you have to mount your own inlet  fittings? 

     Also, there's a huge difference  in available selector valves, the generic ACS for about $40 or the name brand  for over $200. There's a disclaimer saying the generic valve isn't FAA approved,  but I find it hard to believe ACS would sell anything unsafe. Which are you  using?

                                                        Bill

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