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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
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Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:29 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a  new replacement fuel pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500  series???  IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I  heard a rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel  hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the nose gear  well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to run the heater...  Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of STC or what?   H E L  P!!! Calling all cars!!!



  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 9:47 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

David, have you checked with the guys at C&D? They have new STC'd 

AD-free replacement heaters for Commanders, and may carry parts too: 

http://www.aircraftheater.com/



Cheers,



/John



David Owens wrote:

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		   Hey Guys & Gals... Anyone know anything about a new replacement fuel 

 pump for the Janitrol heater located in the nose of the 500 series???  

 IS there a replacement for the old DC-3 style Weldon unit? I heard a 

 rumor from a guy that has O\H'ed our heater that we can route a fuel 

 hose off the left engine pressure guage to the existing lines in the 

 nose gear well, and use the existing switches and pressure device to 

 run the heater... Anyone ever heard of this one? Is it some sort of 

 STC or what?   H E L P!!! Calling all cars!!!

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

 Aerial Viewpoint

 N14AV

 AC-500A-Colemill

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rcdettmer(at)charter.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:01 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Hey John,

Happened to be driving by the Bermuda Dunes Airport last week while down at

the Pacific Life Open, and saw a Commander tail sticking up above the fence.

Was that your plane..??  Also talked to one of the line judges at the

tournament who we know, and he had very nice things to say about your mom as

Director of Officials.  53X is still in the shop, so I had the pleasure of a

5 hour drive down to Indian Wells.  Sure miss my Commander.



Randy Dettmer, AIA

680F/N6253X



Dettmer Architecture

663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA  93405

805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865

http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/



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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:03 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

John,

Yes, Those guys are the ones that just OH'ed our heater, as we discussed

before. I don't know all the details, but our pump assy was sent along with

the heater to be overhauled and tagged, and the guys there supposedly

seperated the pump from the motor, sending the pump body one way for a check

out or whatever they do, and the motor another direction for their

electrical checks... The motor was found to be in need of overhaul, but the

pump body could not be found anywhere. Here lies the delimma... We have the

O\H motor now, without the pump body. The heater is returned,and ready for

service, BUT no pump.   ??? As is my quest for a new pump Body!   Part

number Weldon 4031-A... HELP! Our Overhaul cost for the heater and the

little motor to run the pump was a little over 900 dollars... (thats less a

20% discount I guess for the loss of the pump). I have called all the

obvious places...  to no avail. Thank you for your reply...





David Owens

Aerial Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

You need aircraft heat in Houston? Why back in the day as camerman, I 

remember cans of Coke freezing in the C-180 & 206......



David, this one is obvious..... you talk yet to Aircraft Accesories of OK?



Steve



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floydgm(at)hotmail.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

David here are the results from a PartsBase search maybe that will help.

  

 Mike

          [url=javascript:openWindow_Profile(\'CompanyProfile.asp?CustomerId=36968&sellerEmployeeID=40274&EmployeeId=129661&Key=16211FE65\')]Atlanta Air Exchange[/url]  BASICePARTS Call 1-802-425-5800 We stock over 43,000 lines 225,000 line items in 24 hours ! We Ship Worldwide                    Part Number: 4031A Qty:  27                Description  : IC 38510-05705BEA CC:  [url=javascript:openWinWithOptions(\'DisplayConditionCodes.asp?EmployeeId=129661&Key=16211FE65\')]OR[/url]         03/15/2008                [url=javascript:openWindow_Profile(\'CompanyProfile.asp?CustomerId=8953&sellerEmployeeID=41643&EmployeeId=129661&Key=16211FE65\')]Aircraft Accessories of Oklaho[/url] [/url]-->      OK, United States           P: 800-255-9924        F: 918-835-3681                     Part Number: 4031-A Qty:  1                Alt Part Num: IS13907-79587 CC:  [url=javascript:openWinWithOptions(\'DisplayConditionCodes.asp?EmployeeId=129661&Key=16211FE65\')]OH[/url]            Description  : METRNG PS      02/22/2008     Watch “Cause Effect,” a show about real people making a real difference target='_new'>Learn more.  [quote][b]

John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:07 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Randy,



That was Randy Dunn's airplane....I was supposed to be there but my 

airplane wasn't ready until the following Monday. We found a HUGE 

exhaust leak that was in a totally inaccessible spot, thanks to the 

rayjay turbos. Anyway, I'm flying again...



You should have called, my mom got Randy D some GREAT seats. Remember 

next time (same with the SJ Open up here) so I can set you up!



I hope your props go together soon!



/J



Randy Dettmer, AIA wrote:

[quote] 



 Hey John,

 Happened to be driving by the Bermuda Dunes Airport last week while down at

 the Pacific Life Open, and saw a Commander tail sticking up above the fence.

 Was that your plane..??  Also talked to one of the line judges at the

 tournament who we know, and he had very nice things to say about your mom as

 Director of Officials.  53X is still in the shop, so I had the pleasure of a

 5 hour drive down to Indian Wells.  Sure miss my Commander.



 Randy Dettmer, AIA

 680F/N6253X



 Dettmer Architecture

 663 Hill Street, San Luis Obispo, CA  93405

 805 541 4864 / Fax 805 541 4865

 http://www.dettmerarchitecture.com/



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John Vormbaum

Joined: 21 Aug 2006
Posts: 273
Location: SF Bay Area, CA

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:08 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Sorry David, didn't realize you knew of them....I must not have read 

enough of the original thread!



/J



David Owens wrote:

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 John,

 Yes, Those guys are the ones that just OH'ed our heater, as we discussed

 before. I don't know all the details, but our pump assy was sent along with

 the heater to be overhauled and tagged, and the guys there supposedly

 seperated the pump from the motor, sending the pump body one way for a check

 out or whatever they do, and the motor another direction for their

 electrical checks... The motor was found to be in need of overhaul, but the

 pump body could not be found anywhere. Here lies the delimma... We have the

 O\H motor now, without the pump body. The heater is returned,and ready for

 service, BUT no pump.   ??? As is my quest for a new pump Body!   Part

 number Weldon 4031-A... HELP! Our Overhaul cost for the heater and the

 little motor to run the pump was a little over 900 dollars... (thats less a

 20% discount I guess for the loss of the pump). I have called all the

 obvious places...  to no avail. Thank you for your reply...





 David Owens

 Aerial Viewpoint

 N14AV

 AC-500A-Colemill

tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:40 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

This company have shipped me three, (count them....3), heaters all of which 

were meant to fit, none of which did.

They say they have the design issue resolved but I have been waiting for 

months and am still waiting.

Only game in town? oh well, good luck.

Tom

C-GISS

680FLP (Mr.RPM)

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:47 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Steve...



 AC of Ok had the part number listed on their site, but when I called to

confirm, the guys told me it was discontinued some years back (20 or so) and

had none, and didn't know where to find one...

   As far as Houston weather, some years back in the 206 Cessna, my brother

and Uncle went out to do some custom photography at 30K feet, and they told

me when they got back, it was IFR INSIDE the cabin!   Also, the controller

asked them several times to verify their alt and aircraft type... Pretty

funny.





David Owens

Aerial Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:49 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

MIKE!!!

  

  Thank you for the help. I will let you know  what they say right now.  I guess I need to get the info on what you used  to do that... How much money, etc. Who to call... etc. THANK YOU!

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 11:51 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

TOM...



I have delt with these guys for at least 10 years, and have never had any

problems... I have a new Co. I might start dealing with... CJ Aviation...

305-378-1469...





David Owens

Aerial Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 12:25 pm Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Thanks, I will call them if this last one, which has yet to be shipped, does 

not fit.

Tom.



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steve2(at)sover.net
Guest

Posted: Wed Mar 26, 2008 2:05 pm Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

I think the TU-206 was the worst.... When I did ride in the back of the bus 

on camera, I spent a good part of the flight stuffing tissues and paper 

towels into the door frame to slow the breeze down. It wasn't much warmer, 

but keeps you busy. It was pretty funny stopping anywhere for gas, opening 

the back cargo door and having paper towels, and pee bottles, and all sorts 

of crap fall onto the ramp. Especially the time the line guys in Connecticut 

brought out a little red carpet......

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Thu Mar 27, 2008 7:42 am Post subject: HELP! Anybody out there?

Steve...

Steve..



About the only time they got the "Red Carpet" treatment was by the Customs

guys after flying a mission photographing the cable pulled by a seismic ship

for hours... They were in constant radio contact with ATC during the

mission, and landed in Corpus Christi for fuel, when up came this Navajo

full of flack jackets and M-16's... all pointed at them... hehehe... that's

another story. My uncle had to piss, and went right there on the ramp, of

the dismay of the agents... Whats really bad was these guys were based right

here at our little airport!!!





David Owens

Aerial Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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