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jfrjr(at)roadrunner.com
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Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 6:04 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Just now installing the seat belts and I need to countersink  the canopy for the large screws that hold the shoulder harness in place.  I  don't have, nor can I find, a large enough countersink cutter to do the  job.  Any suggestions?  Jay Rowe

 

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John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Sat Mar 01, 2008 8:18 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Jay, Avery in Texas has that countersink.You're welcome to use mine, providing you pass it on to another builder when you're done...

Contact me offline if you'd like.

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John Ackerman 40458



PS  what belts did you get? What are the alternatives?



PPS  Where is all the traffic on the list - It's been scary quiet the last few days..



On Mar 1, 2008, at 7:00 PM, Jay Rowe wrote:

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		  Just now installing the seat belts and I need to countersink the canopy for the large screws that hold the shoulder harness in place.  I don't have, nor can I find, a large enough countersink cutter to do the job.  Any suggestions?  Jay Rowe



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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
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Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 5:59 am Post subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes

Hey John,



Tool sharing?!!! What an awesome offer!  Please put us on the list.



Thanks, - Lew

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jfrjr(at)roadrunner.com
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 8:58 am Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

[quote]   John. I'll contact you off line, and, of course will forward    the cutter to the next guy on the list.  I used the Hooker belts.  I    also modified the system, as has others, such that the rear shoulder belts are    connected to the canopy just like the front shoulder belts. You, of    course, have to make hard points in the canopy but that is very easy    especially if the canopy is not on the plane yet.  And if you locate    those hard points in the right location the Hooker rear shoulder belts fit    perfectly without modification (something that I didn't do so I had to add    some length to the harness).  And thanks for the tool sharing---very    cool.    Jay

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John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
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Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 3:02 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Lew, I suggested that it be passed on from builder to builder. I think Jay is passing it to "Barry in FL. "

I suggest contacting either of them, because I don't know where it's going once past Deems and Jay.

Best

John 40458

On Mar 2, 2008, at 6:59 AM, Lew Gallagher wrote:

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "Lew Gallagher" <lewgall(at)charter.net (lewgall(at)charter.net)>

Hey John,

Tool sharing?!!! What an awesome offer!  Please put us on the list.

Thanks, - Lew

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patrick.pulis(at)seagas.c
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 4:06 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.
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Posted: Sun Mar 02, 2008 6:45 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Forwarded second attempt from Patrick:



Hi there John, could you please indicate the part number for the

countersink available from Avery as I would like to obtain one to be

sent downunder.

 

Regarding harnesses, I have just purchased a set colour matched to my

seats from Hookers, they are great, albiet a little pricey, but well

worth the money.

 

Regards

 

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Lew Gallagher

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Posted: Mon Mar 03, 2008 7:20 pm Post subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes

Hey John, Jay, Barry, etc.



Nick has contacted me about who's next!  Let's use this thread to determine where it's going and to get it back to John eventually.



If it's:   1) Jay, 2) Barry, 3) Lew 4) Nick  use this to get contact info and send it to the next in line.  



And others can add their name and number to the list here.



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egohr1

Joined: 17 Jan 2006
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Location: Oklahoma City

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 6:50 am Post subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes

Please add me to the list for the counter sink.



Eric Gohr

40271 - finishing, Fiberglass wonderland.

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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:50 am Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

whoever has it. can you tell what size the countersink is?

I looked at Avery's site but couldn't find any information on it.

Thanks!

Pascal

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
Posts: 2881

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:35 am Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

You guys are making way too much of a deal out of the tool

thing, IMHO.....look here:

http://www.yardstore.com/browse.cfm/2,344.html



I don't remember the screws actual dimensions...it's an NAS517-5-9,

but I do know that I just grabbed my larger sized countersink cutter

that I bought (probably the #12, as I bought a couple of additional

sizes from yardstore) and used that....and the screw countersunk

just great.   Considering the countersinks are $5.95 each, and

I'm sure the 1/4" one would cut just fine, I don't know why

there would be a scramble to get in line.



Tim Olson - RV-10 N104CD - Flying

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Pascal wrote:

[quote] 

 

 whoever has it. can you tell what size the countersink is?

 I looked at Avery's site but couldn't find any information on it.

 Thanks!

 Pascal

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ninepapa(at)bendbroadband
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 8:40 am Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Pascal



I bought mine from The Yard Store.



      P/N 13326 Countersink #12 x 5/8 x 100 deg



      John 



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rv10builder(at)verizon.ne
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 9:44 am Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

thanks Tim, just what I needed to know.

Pascal

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jfrjr(at)roadrunner.com
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 2:46 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Tim, and others:  the 1/4" countersink cutter does not work---you really 

need the 5/16" or you end up just drilling a 1/4" hole albeit having the 

bottom of the hole nicely countersunk.  Please don't ask me how I know. Jay

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Tim Olson

Joined: 25 Jan 2007
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Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Sure, but I think I used the #12 and it worked well.



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Jay Rowe wrote:

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  Tim, and others:  the 1/4" countersink cutter does not work---you 

 really need the 5/16" or you end up just drilling a 1/4" hole albeit 

 having the bottom of the hole nicely countersunk.  Please don't ask me 

 how I know. Jay

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John Ackerman

Joined: 19 Jun 2006
Posts: 130
Location: Prescott, AZ

Posted: Tue Mar 04, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Greetings, Ron

From the Avery Catalog :"Special RV-10 countersink cutter for countersinking holes in cabin roof for seat belt anchor points. High speed 100° 3-flute precision ground 5/16" pilot X 5/8" body diameter X 1/4-28 threads."

Part #C516

Avery Tools, L.P.

111 Aviator Dr

Ft. Worth, Texas 76179  USA

1-800-652-8379



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On Mar 2, 2008, at 7:43 PM, McGANN, Ron wrote:

[quote]--> RV10-List message posted by: "McGANN, Ron" <ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.com (ron.mcgann(at)baesystems.com)>

Forwarded second attempt from Patrick:

Hi there John, could you please indicate the part number for the

countersink available from Avery as I would like to obtain one to be

sent downunder.

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Lew Gallagher

Joined: 04 Jan 2008
Posts: 402
Location: Greenville , SC

Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 10:10 am Post subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes

Hey Nick and Eric,



Thanks to John and the guys ahead of me on the traveling tool list, the seatbelt countersink arrived today!  If others are interested, post your name here with your next in line number so we can keep passing it forward -- then back to John.



I will contact Nick (4), to get the address when we're through with it and then on to Eric (5).



Later, - Lew



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thane

Joined: 27 Nov 2006
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Posted: Sat Mar 22, 2008 4:27 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Would like to be on the list!! Thanks.

Thane States

11182 Scullers Run

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Lew Gallagher

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Posted: Mon Mar 24, 2008 3:41 pm Post subject: Re: counter sinking canopy holes

Hey Eric(5) and Thane(6),



How about emailing me your email address so I can keep you posted, confirm address, etc.  We're still waiting for the seatbelts, so I may send the countersink on to those who already have theirs, then get it back at the end of the line.  This "traveling tool" thing works so fast, we weren't ready for it so soon!



Later, - Lew

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thane

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Posted: Fri Mar 28, 2008 5:28 pm Post subject: counter sinking canopy holes

Lew, my e-mail is Thane2(at)comporium.net

Thanks so much.

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