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LarryRosen
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Location: Medford, NJ
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 Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 9:36 am Post subject: Hearing the Bear, Watching the Bear .. wanting to dance rat |
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Ignore the EAA self promotion. I like how they like to take 100% of
the credit.
Previously Approved Kits to be 'Grandfathered'
FAA responds to EAA advocacy efforts
*April 11 2008* — Manufacturers and owners of aircraft kits that were
previously evaluated and approved by the FAA as eligible to be
certificated in the Experimental Amateur-Built Category under the FAA’s
51% Rule received welcome news at Sun ’n Fun Friday. The FAA announced
that its will not re-evaluate any previously approved aircraft kits
under its new policy on amateur-built certification.
Kim Smith, manager of the FAA’s Small Airplane Directorate, appeared at
the “Meet the FAA” session Friday afternoon at Lakeland and made the
announcement, which essentially grandfathers those kits that appear on
the FAA’s 51% approved list. The FAA suspended making evaluations
earlier this year until it finalizes its new policy revisiting
amateur-built certification, which was prompted by concerns over
excessive commercial assistance and prefabrication that could cause
finished aircraft to fall outside the homebuilt certification regulations.
“There was no intent to reevaluate previously evaluated kits,” Smith
explained. “An NPRM (notice of proposed rulemaking) will be issued
sometime hopefully early next week stating that we will not re-evaluate
kits that have already been evaluated.”
Asked by an EAA staffer if the term, “grandfathered” would apply, Smith
agreed that it would.
Several manufacturers exhibiting at Lakeland, who served on the
amateur-built aviation rulemaking committee (ARC) welcomed the news,
saying they had expected the FAA to heed the ARC’s suggestion to not
re-evaluate previously approved kits.
“This is good news,” said Joe Bartels, president of Lancair, whose new
model Evolution was recently evaluated and approved as eligible for A-B
certification. “We indeed needed that reassurance, and the FAA has
evaluated our new Evolution and found it to meet the requirements.”
Mikael Via of Glasair Aviation added, “That’s what we on the ARC
expected, and we’re glad to see it. Our main concern is what the new
policy will be regarding new kits, so we’ll have to wait and see about
that. We look forward to learning the end result.”
Dick Van Grunsven of Van’s Aircraft also was not surprised at the
announcement. “We expected them (approved kits) to be grandfathered,” he
said. “But we don’t expect it to be business as usual, either. They
(inspectors) may pay closer attention than they used to when inspecting
the kits from now on, to make sure they do not exceed what is allowed
for commercial assistance.”
EAA President Tom Poberezny, who is at Lakeland this week, added, “We
are extremely pleased about the FAA announcement to grandfather kits
that have already been approved.”
Earl Lawrence, EAA vice president of industry and regulatory affairs and
co-chair of the ARC, applauded the announcement. “This shows that EAA
advocacy efforts are working and that the FAA is sensitive to the
concerns of current amateur-builders,” he said. “But EAA members need to
continue to be vigilant, and continue to follow this effort. If you’re
an amateur-builder, we encourage you to write the FAA
<http://www.eaa.org/news/2008/public_comment_letter.pdf> to help ensure
that they fully understand from the builder’s perspective how what you
are doing is fully within the intent and letter of the regulation.
Innovation should not be restricted.”
At the same meeting Friday, the FAA also released a draft of an NPRM
that fixes several long-awaited changed to the sport pilot-slight-sport
aircraft regulations.
johngoodman wrote:
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I haven't heard anything about a "new list" but I was at Van's BBQ Friday night. Dick spoke about the new rules and said that the existing kits are grandfathered in. The only kit in question from Van is the RV-12. My take on that statement is that if you go buy an RV-8 kit tomorrow or next year, you are still under the same rule as all the other RV-8s ever built.
Good BBQ, by the way.
John
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AV8ORJWC
Joined: 13 Jul 2006
Posts: 1149
Location: Aurora, Oregon "Home of VANS"
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| Posted: Sun Apr 13, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: Hearing the Bear, Watching the Bear .. wanting to dance rat |
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Larry & John - All of this smacks of big (Good Ole) boy politic. One
manufacturer does not want their volume of kit sales reduced. A second
manufacturer had a kit that was not approved when this suspension went
into effect and is glad it is going to be grandfathered back before the
suspension started. This is before they even had a flying prototype
(The EVO was NOT PREVIOUSLY EVALUATED). Another blatantly promotes that
they can stay under the definition of 51% and do it all with a novice
builder with teams of factory trained professionals in "Two Weeks to
Taxi". Where is that representative of the lone guy in his garage who
does all of the build themselves (within 51%, that the rule was supposed
to protect)?
The vast majority of those 29,000+ Experimentals were plans built, kit
build or true one of a kind prototypes before the big boys developed
"Factory Endorsed Quick Build", "Two weeks to Taxi" or This kit can only
be completed at our unique one of a kind "Safety is object ONE" factory.
This whole mess began over Rick Schrameck slapping 1250 shp turboprops
from mothballed Beech Starships into a composite build fuselage only at
their "Safety" factory concept. Sounds like Epic made the Grandfather
cut. I am clearly missing how grandfathering Fat Cats shows a great job
the EAA is doing for the individual members. Point me in the right
direction.
The only thing I can conclude is the Professional Build shops who buy
kits and build to order, are about to be fed to the Bear. I am still
wanting to see the revised Tasks List that was being applied against
those kits that they looked at SNF '08. Sounds like it may have gotten
harder to meet the new Task List for the little guys. Let's see ...
Taxes due April 15th then read the Federal Registry for the facts from
SNF. Got it! The fuse is lit on April 15th, 2008. Don't sit on the
sideline as this NPRM deadline lapses.
John
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