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 Posted: Thu Mar 02, 2006 6:57 pm Post subject: 701 Rudder Kit |
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All,
I have a complete 701 Rudder kit with spare parts that I would like to get rid of for a reasonable price. Only step one of the kit has been completed. I also have brand new riveter with the machined heads from Zenith. My original priorities have changed therefore delaying my project for awhile.
Let me know if there is any interest.
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AJ
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Total Messages Posted Wed 03/01/06: 31
Today's Message Index:
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1. 04:04 AM - Re: Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (Paul Mulwitz)
2. 04:25 AM - Zenith-list: Rudder return springs (Dave & Doretta New)
3. 05:34 AM - Control lever and horn grease (Don Mountain)
4. 06:28 AM - Re: Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (Michel Therrien)
5. 06:28 AM - Re: Zenith-List Digest: 20 Msgs - 02/28/06 (alex trent)
6. 06:41 AM - Re: 601 Rudder pedal return spring (ron dewees)
7. 07:03 AM - Re: Control lever and horn grease (Jim Hoak)
8. 09:21 AM - Canopy storage (Doug Sire)
9. 09:27 AM - Re: Control lever and horn grease. (Gary Gower)
10. 10:31 AM - Re: Canopy storage (Jim Hoak)
11. 10:55 AM - Re: Canopy storage (LarryMcFarland)
12. 11:13 AM - Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (David X)
13. 11:38 AM - Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (Doug Sire)
14. 11:58 AM - Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (David X)
15. 01:20 PM - Wiring harness questions (John Hines)
16. 01:43 PM - Re: Wiring harness questions (Hinde, Frank George (Corvallis))
17. 01:58 PM - Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. (steveadams)
18. 03:42 PM - Re: Canopy storage (Jim Weston)
19. 05:16 PM - Bill of sale (Brandon Tucker)
20. 05:16 PM - Bill of sale (Brandon Tucker)
21. 05:28 PM - What should the empty CG be for the 601XL? (David X)
22. 06:05 PM - Re: Bill of sale (Steve Shuck)
23. 06:20 PM - Re: Recessed elevator trim tab (David X)
24. 06:30 PM - Re: Bill of sale (Rick R)
25. 07:35 PM - Re: Bill of sale (Jack Russell)
26. 07:50 PM - Elevator trim photo assembly guide mismatch (mark doughty)
27. 08:02 PM - Re: Re: Aux fuel pump in 701.Aux fuel pump in 701. (Larry)
28. 08:56 PM - Re: Canopy storage (Leo Gates)
29. 10:48 PM - Re: Bill of sale (Craig Payne)
30. 11:32 PM - Official Zenith-List Frequently Asked Questions (FAQ) (Matt Dralle)
31. 11:38 PM - Official Zenith-List Usage Guidelines (Matt Dralle)
________________________________ Message 1 _____________________________________
Time: 04:04:09 AM PST US
From: Paul Mulwitz
Subject: Re: Re: Recessed elevator trim tab
| Quote: | I've been told by some to simply add a resistor, but that would
reduce the power level to the servo, making it weaker as well as
slower. The servo speed control does it without reducing power/strength.
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I'm really confused by this one. It seems to me that to reduce the
speed of the servo motor you must reduce the voltage supplied to
it. That naturally reduces the power to the motor. There just ain't
no other way for this to work.
I think the actual circuit required to do this electrically is a
voltage divider. Since the voltage to the servo motor is actually
reversed, this would require separate divider networks for each of
the wires that supply power to the servo motor. The total number of
resistors needed for this approach would be 4 and the grand component
cost around 50 cents.
A similar approach could be done mechanically by increasing the
length of the trim tab control horn. In this case, the power would
actually be increased by slowing down the trim tab movement due to
the increased mechanical advantage.
I guess this leaves me completely baffled when I try to understand
why the design is so poor that you can't actually trim the plane for
level flight with the final design.
Paul
XL wings
________________________________ Message 2 _____________________________________
Time: 04:25:00 AM PST US
From: "Dave & Doretta New"
Subject: Zenith-list: Rudder return springs
Subject: Rudder return springs
List
I have been flying a 601 HDS taildragger for 3 years now. Have used small springs
connected to rudder pedels with small chain and hooks. Holds pedels very well
with out too much force. Also when flying note witch pedel needs more force
to keep ball centered. Simple mater to adjust springs to use chain and hooks
to adjust pedel pressure and help center ball.
Dave New
601 HDS Taildragger Subaru
________________________________ Message 3 _____________________________________
Time: 05:34:46 AM PST US
From: Don Mountain
Subject: Control lever and horn grease
As per other discussions on sticking ailerons recently, I don't find any recommendations
in the instructions on what type of grease to use on parts like the
aileron horns where they rotate and contact the supporting angles in the wings.
I noticed that you need to be real careful how tight you torque the mounting
bolts through the horns, but also found that normal "axel grease" gets kind
of stiff in cold weather. As I put my wings together, I wonder what others are
using for a lubricant on the aileron horn pivot?
Don Mountain
601XL, tail done, working on wings
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________________________________ Message 4 _____________________________________
Time: 06:28:17 AM PST US
From: Michel Therrien
Subject: RE: Re: Recessed elevator trim tab
Good information ... thanks to all who responded.
Michel
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--- Zodie Rocket wrote:
[quote]
Michael the larger trim tab is for the LSA
requirements in which they
are using 0-200's and Jab 3300's and require less
stick pressure in full
flap configuration. Your right it is way to much for
normal flying
conditions and I would not alter from the original
design of the
recessed trim tab. Bigger in this case is not always
better, but for the
U.S. Sport Pilot it is necessary and the 601XL plans
have evolved to
suit this category.
Mark Townsend Alma, Ontario
Zodiac 601XL C-GOXL, CH701 just started
www.ch601.org / www.ch701.com / www.Osprey2.com
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