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Andrewlieser

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:47 am Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Has anyone used the NAPA 7220 self etching primer on their Zenith? It seems to be quite popular with th RV guys and would be more accessible for me. Just wondering if it offers the same corrosion protection......
Andrew Lieser
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Tim Juhl

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 8:54 am Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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I use SEM self-etching primer but I believe what applies to one, applies to all.
Zinc chromate would be the best for corrosion protection but you can't get it in rattle cans and it's use is restricted. Self etching primers provide good adhesion and provide some protection where aluminum pieces are riveted together. When used on steel it MUST be topcoated.
If you do a search you will find that there has been much discussion on this issue in the past.
Tim
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:25 am Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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I use the NAPA 7220 for my plane. I also read on an RV-site that once he found out about it, he started using and and never looked back!!
Keith
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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On Fri, May 2, 2008 at 10:22 AM, Keith Ashcraft <keith.ashcraft(at)itt.com (keith.ashcraft(at)itt.com)> wrote:
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Do you buy it at your local NAPA store? Any NAPA store? I tried searching on their Website but could not find it. Thanks and cheers,
Ihab
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Andrewlieser

Joined: 15 Mar 2008 Posts: 43 Location: Chicagoland
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:35 am Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Thanks Tim, I do not live in a VERY corrosive type of environment but it did want to use some type of primer. I don't like ZINC chromate, nasty stuff, and my other choice was going with Corrosion X but its not as available as 7220 and more expensive. Thanks for your response,
Andrew
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 9:54 am Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Ihab my local store has it in but it probably varies. I could not locate it on the NAPA site either but one call cleared it up! Glad to hear it worked well for you Kieth!
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ch701builder
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 10:41 am Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Hi Ihab,
Yes sir, I go to the local NAPA store and buy the rattle cans. Anywhere between $4-$6 a can. It is pretty much equivalent to GPB 988, but 1/2 the cost
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 3:26 pm Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Just FYI...
Zinc Chromate is readily available in rattle cans and is easy to get. Tempo has a Marine Zinc Chromate primer that according to their site is self etching. I have tried it on well cleaned and acid etched 6061 and it adheres very well. I can get it at my local hardware store, West Marine and Boat US. I plan to use it plus Corrosion X.
Burke Johnson
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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:10 pm Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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It works great I use it all the time on the 701 I am building. do not archive.
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Has anyone used the NAPA 7220 self etching primer on their Zenith? It seems to be quite popular with th RV guys and would be more accessible for me. Just wondering if it offers the same corrosion protection......
Andrew Lieser
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Tim Juhl

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:17 pm Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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I stand corrected. Checking West Marine I found this: MOELLER Zinc Chromate Primers From $15.99 USD - I also see that aircraft spruce is now carrying cans made by PTI. You do pay a premium for shipping, however.
That said, Zinc Chromate is still nasty stuff. I used to teach chemistry and at one point the state made us turn over all bottles of Chromate compounds to a toxic waste disposal company. There are a lot of things I used to handle and inhale without protection that have since been found to be very hazardous. Good corrosion protection but use it with care.
Tim
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Andrewlieser

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Posted: Fri May 02, 2008 4:23 pm Post subject: Re: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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Thanks to everyone who replied! I should get some time to do the priming this weekend and hopefully riveting! I will post some pictures on my webpage of the 7220 priming for all who may in the future be curious.
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Posted: Sat May 03, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: NAPA self etching Primer...Anybody use this? |
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I've bought Dupli-Color self-etching primer at Pep Boys. It works very
well, but give it time to cure after spraying. It's still soft, even when
it's tack-free. Over-night cure seems to allow it to toughen up and bond
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