andrew(at)nzactive.com
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:18 pm Post subject: On vertical rolls, recovering from them, and meeting other R |
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Hmmmm. Upon reflection:
1. Many thanks for the technique advice, you guys, I appreciate it, and wil give it a go......when....
2. I'm satisfied I can do it safely, and recover from anything. I thought I could, but maybe Tom's right. I have not, in fact, done inverted spin recoveries in the Rocket, although I spun the Citabria till my instructor got sick. I read about the recent Rocket accident, (TX?) and I was very sorry to hear about it. I've lost a few friends, and it's never easy. So easy to forget the risks we deal with, although a near-fatal training accident 7 years ago solved that problem for me. I guess, at the back of my mind,
I was sort guessing that I "knew" the cause of the accident (low level stunting) whereas in fact, of course, I don't. My hubris, I guess, and assumptions based on reading lots of NTSB reports. But Tom's right - we don't know, yet. It's not "taking the fun out of it", Tom, it's acknowledging that risk management is the inseparable flipside of the aviation coin, and I appreciate your thoughts. I'll wait till Jim, my military friend, is back from deployment, and we'll go and push the envelope together. Thanks again for the advice.
You know, I mainly do short-strip/rough strip/NZ mountain flying in my Rocket, which is lots of fun. I live just on the verge of the Southern Alps, so there are plenty of glaciers, mountains, "canyons" and so on to go and fly around/over/thru. This may sound sacrilegous, and I'm sorry and surprised to have to say it, but I find aeros in the Rocket a bit boring compared to that. Any suggestions as to other interesting aerobatic manuevers in the Rocket? I find it bizarre that I find aeros a tad boring in the Rocket, and I wonder if I'm just doing the wrong stuff. Admittedly I'm only doing the more basic manuevres. Any thoughts/suggestions?
And any aerobatically (or not) flying Rocket pilots interested in taking me up and showing me what you and YOUR Rocket get up to, on my dime, (at $5.50 a gallon it BETTER be on my dime, but you try running a 340!) next time I'm in the US? I have a Cessna 340 based north of LA, so I get around the US a bit. Even did a diversionary landing into Apple Valley on our last X/C to Houston, and was thinking, damn, I know one of the Rocketeers lives here - (is it Tom? wasn't sure) as our fuel pressure gauge filled up with, er, FUEL! - but we met a capable and friendly mechanic quickly, tied off the lines before the aeroplane blew up, and were on our way to Houston within an hour. Anyway. Next time I'm tooling around the US/Western Canada, would enjoy meeting and maybe flying with (or not) other Rocketeers, particularly if you're doing interesting aerobatic stuff in your Rocket, but no worries if not. I just became the second Rocket owner in NZ, as one has finally been built in-country, and there's another just been started down my way, but I've put 400 hours on mine without anyone to compare notes with. Would enjoy doing so next time I'm in North America. Feel free to email me offlist on andrew(at)activenewzealand.com (andrew(at)activenewzealand.com).
Andrew
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martin
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:01 AM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: On vertical rolls...
Andrew
I am not trying to take the fun out of flying but our rocket community had a loss of two people last weekend that we should all take note of. There are no official reports out yet but here is what is known from the news media and from pictures. The aircraft was seen to be doing aerobatics before the accident. The aircraft landed upside down with no sign of skid marks. This would lead one to believe it was in an inverted spin. What we need to do is to find out what type of situation would have caused this scenario. Be careful, these are fun fast airplanes that can do aerobatics, but when things go wrong they go wrong fast.
Tom Martin
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ACTIVE NZ - Andrew
Sent: June 26, 2008 9:21 AM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: On vertical rolls...
...just a question on whether someone-who-knows can tell me the best technique for vertical rolls in a Rocket. Entry speed, exit speed, technique? I do have an aerobatic rating (required in NZ), and already do loops, rolls, & various combinations thereof, stall turns, as well a reasonable amount of spin training, botched manuever recovery, etc, so I feel happy enough to go out and give it a go (but would listen, if it seems dumb to try vertical rolls without an appropriate CFI - there's old pilots, and bold pilots.....) My problem with dual in my HRII is that I have a. no appropriate CFIs around here and b. no rudder pedals in the rear, so my aero instruction in the Rocket was with one of our Air Force's most senior instructors...a brave guy who just calmly sat there and coached me through all the manuevers, without access to rudders...but he's current off on deployment somewhere. So most of my dual aerobatics has been in a Citabria, which of course doesn't do vertical rolls very well. Anyway...
I haven't done vertical rolls yet. Any pointers?
Andrew, in NZ...
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Im7shannon(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:46 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: first10 hr report
450KS first 15 hour report is as follows:
1. Vertical rolls are the most fun so far.
2. Hey Smokey how many can you do?
Kevin
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