andrew(at)nzactive.com
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 Posted: Thu Jun 26, 2008 3:35 pm Post subject: ...and a note on safety.... |
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Re learning acro on your own, Danny,
I agree. I was exploring the possibility of adding new manuevres to a base of already having done quite a lot of dual aerobatic training, starting over 10 years ago. I'm no expert, but can do the basics reasonably safely, I think. So, for instance, we never did 4 point rolls, dual, but I was happy enough learning on my own, with a bit of reading, cos it looks awfully like a slightly jerky aileron roll to me. Vertical plane manuevers, though, you're probably right. I guess that's an advantage of an online "community" - you can think out loud before you actually go and DO (fly) anything. Problem is, like I said, there are no truly dual capable Rockets in NZ - my military guy is very brave, I think, sitting back there calmly coaching me, with no rudders. But it's all good - I'll wait till he gets back....
As for that F16 pull vertical for 28,000 feet routine, my word. Can't be too many aircraft that make the Rocket look slow, but that's one of them. I'd love to try that - reckon if I just rang up the USAF they'd give me a go?  Although (warning, editorial coming up) I've flown a number of military jet trainers - Soko Galeb, L-39, Fouga, T-33 - and if I had to choose ONE aircraft, with an unlimited fuel budget, I'd choose a Rocket over any of them. It's hard to describe why, exactly, but there's something about 4000 fpm in the Rocket that seems totally different to 4000 fpm in the Soko. I guess it comes down to responsiveness & subtlety, or something. But yeah, you'd prise my Rocket out of my cold, dead hands, or whatever it is you Americans say
Andrew
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Tom Martin
Sent: Friday, June 27, 2008 2:01 AM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: RE: On vertical rolls...
Andrew
I am not trying to take the fun out of flying but our rocket community had a loss of two people last weekend that we should all take note of. There are no official reports out yet but here is what is known from the news media and from pictures. The aircraft was seen to be doing aerobatics before the accident. The aircraft landed upside down with no sign of skid marks. This would lead one to believe it was in an inverted spin. What we need to do is to find out what type of situation would have caused this scenario. Be careful, these are fun fast airplanes that can do aerobatics, but when things go wrong they go wrong fast.
Tom Martin
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of ACTIVE NZ - Andrew
Sent: June 26, 2008 9:21 AM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: On vertical rolls...
...just a question on whether someone-who-knows can tell me the best technique for vertical rolls in a Rocket. Entry speed, exit speed, technique? I do have an aerobatic rating (required in NZ), and already do loops, rolls, & various combinations thereof, stall turns, as well a reasonable amount of spin training, botched manuever recovery, etc, so I feel happy enough to go out and give it a go (but would listen, if it seems dumb to try vertical rolls without an appropriate CFI - there's old pilots, and bold pilots.....) My problem with dual in my HRII is that I have a. no appropriate CFIs around here and b. no rudder pedals in the rear, so my aero instruction in the Rocket was with one of our Air Force's most senior instructors...a brave guy who just calmly sat there and coached me through all the manuevers, without access to rudders...but he's current off on deployment somewhere. So most of my dual aerobatics has been in a Citabria, which of course doesn't do vertical rolls very well. Anyway...
I haven't done vertical rolls yet. Any pointers?
Andrew, in NZ...
From: owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-rocket-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of Im7shannon(at)aol.com
Sent: Thursday, June 26, 2008 6:46 PM
To: rocket-list(at)matronics.com
Subject: first10 hr report
450KS first 15 hour report is as follows:
1. Vertical rolls are the most fun so far.
2. Hey Smokey how many can you do?
Kevin
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