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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 10:25 am Post subject: Icom A200

Fellow aviators:



A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

 

I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

 

Any help out there?



Thanks,



Bill B/ Stormy  

RV-6A



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Posted: Fri Jul 25, 2008 11:01 am Post subject: Icom A200

Bill,

Sorry to say, but other than IcomAmerica in Washington, there are no 

parts available or a repair station you can send it to for repair. They 

won't even send you parts. You have to send it back to them. I've sent 

mine in for repair before and I've been advised to take special 

precaution with the tuning knobs when shipping as they are some of the 

most expensive parts to replace. I'm guessing your quote maybe be up 

there along the lines of a new radio. Of course check with them first. 

Sorry for the misfortune.



Carlos in AZ



Bill Boyd wrote:

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		   Fellow aviators:



 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax 

 seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process 

 bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  

 The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) 

 selector, and needs repair.



 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a 

 replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor 

 opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I 

 can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio 

 while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if 

 I decide to swap first / repair later.



 Any help out there?



 Thanks,



 Bill B/ Stormy 

 RV-6A

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 5:01 am Post subject: Icom A200

It's ashame Kenwood doesn't make aviation radios.  There are 2 or 3 

different parts stores that you can buy virtually any part for one of 

their current, and even a lot of their discontinued radios.  At least 

you can for their commercial and ham radios, not sure about the consumer 

FRS type radios, if Kenwood even sales them anymore.  Unfortunately it 

is darn near impossible to get parts for Icom radios.



Carlos Hernandez wrote:

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 <carlosh(at)structuralaz.com>



 Bill,

 Sorry to say, but other than IcomAmerica in Washington, there are no 

 parts available or a repair station you can send it to for repair. 

 They won't even send you parts. You have to send it back to them. I've 

 sent mine in for repair before and I've been advised to take special 

 precaution with the tuning knobs when shipping as they are some of the 

 most expensive parts to replace. I'm guessing your quote maybe be up 

 there along the lines of a new radio. Of course check with them first. 

 Sorry for the misfortune.



 Carlos in AZ



 Bill Boyd wrote:

> Fellow aviators:

>

> A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax 

> seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process 

> bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  

> The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring 

> (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

>

> I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a 

> replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, 

> nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop 

> is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner 

> radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement 

> A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

>

> Any help out there?

>

> Thanks,

>

> Bill B/ Stormy RV-6A

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> Checked by AVG.   




	


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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 6:21 am Post subject: Icom A200

Chris-



Long time Kenwood TS-430 & 440 user here, but I have no beef with Icom radios - I own an IC-703 I will be using wilderness-portable most of the afternnoon today, and an IC-7000 in the shack, both of which I'm quite happy with.  More impressed with Yaesu's hand-held VHF stuff than anyone else's (my FT-23R is still as durable as the day I bought it in 1985).  But you are right about Icom's service on avionics - I called the factory and spoke with service and parts dept.  All I can get out of them is the labor rate ($84/hr) and the rotary encoder price ($25), but the tech had no idea how long it would take to solder in a new one - so I have no idea if this is a $100 repair or a $400 repair.  Frustrating.  Since I could do this myself if the part was available - and I'm not a factory-trained service tech, but just a dangerous ham with a soldering iron - I tend to think it's closer to a one-hour minumum job, but I hate handing them a blank check and not knowing.

 

Shucks, it's just money - and everyone knows it is money, not lift, that keeps planes in the air.  I have one offer for a new A200 at a fair price, so probably going that route now and repair the old one later for resale or unicom use here at the farm.

 



On a side note, my LightSpeed Mach One in-ear headset broke again today - earpiece stem sheared off inside the custom ear mold.  Second time this has happened, and last time they replaced it for free with a newly reconditioned unit, no questions asked.  Now THAT'S customer service.   This time I have some questions for them - about a trade in toward their Zulu ANR haedset.  Headset breakage in flight is a safety of flight issue, and I'm also finding iit takes too long to unplug and re-fit those ear buds each time I get all strapped in and realize the oil door is unlocked or the pitot cover is still on   Checklist items, I know...  but I've been there too many times.

 

Thanks to all who replied.  Fly safe.



-Bill



On Sat, Jul 26, 2008 at 8:58 AM, Chris W<3edcft6(at)cox.net (3edcft6(at)cox.net)> wrote:

 [quote]--> RV-List message posted by: Chris W <3edcft6(at)cox.net (3edcft6(at)cox.net)>

  

 It's ashame Kenwood doesn't make aviation radios.  There are 2 or 3 different parts stores that you can buy virtually any part for one of their current, and even a lot of their discontinued radios.  At least you can for their commercial and ham radios, not sure about the consumer FRS type radios, if Kenwood even sales them anymore.  Unfortunately it is darn near impossible to get parts for Icom radios.

  

 Carlos Hernandez wrote:

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 Bill,

 Sorry to say, but other than IcomAmerica in Washington, there are no parts available or a repair station you can send it to for repair. They won't even send you parts. You have to send it back to them. I've sent mine in for repair before and I've been advised to take special precaution with the tuning knobs when shipping as they are some of the most expensive parts to replace. I'm guessing your quote maybe be up there along the lines of a new radio. Of course check with them first. Sorry for the misfortune.

  

 Carlos in AZ

 

 Bill Boyd wrote:

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		   Fellow aviators:

 

 A few weeks back I loaded a heavy, folding shade tent into the pax seat of my RV-6A to take to a neighbor's fly-in event, in the process bumping the tuning knob of my Icom A200 radio and bending its shaft.  The radio has since stopped responding to turning the outer ring (MHz) selector, and needs repair.

  

 I'm not afraid to try this repair myself if I can get my hands on a replacement concentric optical shaft encoder that is a proper fit, nor opposed to sending the radio off for repair by an avionics shop is I can find a reasonable quote.  Menawhile, looking for a loaner radio while I get the repairs done, or a good deal on a replacement A200 if I decide to swap first / repair later.

  

 Any help out there?

 

 Thanks,

 

 Bill B/ Stormy RV-6A

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Posted: Sat Jul 26, 2008 1:19 pm Post subject: Icom A200

Yea, just ship it to ICOM America Washington State (near Seattle). I'm not sure about cost but I don't think its near the cost of a new radio. Call them first, get the return authorization. 

   

  You may want to get insurance or tracking # or signature required (one of the above but not all). USPS has been losing stuff lately. I ship a lot of items USPS. 

   

  Stuff happens, you have to fix it and the factory is the only way. Parts, manuals, tools and test equip makes it not user fixable (my guess).

   

  You could hunt eBay or the aviation classifieds for a used unit? They go for at least $400-$600 depending on condition, used, still in box. If you buy a new or used unit, still get the old one fixed. You can keep it for spare or sell it. It's not working right? You have to fix it. 

   

  I would advise you  don't even try and take it apart and as Carlos, there is no manual or parts. 

   

  Personally I like ICOM and Narco's factory repair only deal. I find avionics shops to be good with some gear but cost wise and quality you are going to get more consistency. Yes its a monopoly but the cost of a new A200 is only $600-$800 depending on if you got it on sale. 

   

  I think Garmin also has factory repair and they have like a flat cost no matter what, in the $200-$300 range, may be it goes up from there. That might be a little unfair, to have such high min charge, but it could work to your advantage may be. 

   

  Things now a days are just plug and replace whole boards or panels. They don't go in and fiddle with individual capacitors. Most of that stuff is surface mount or in IC chips. Try getting a new flat screen LCD or Plazma fixed. The min charge is $200-$300 (that is  why I got extended warranty). 

   

  Its a bummer and sorry that happened but in RV's the panel is kind of prone to hitting with body parts of cargo when loading. I know one guy who took out one of his rear canopy fixed quarter panel and put a cargo door in (tip up RV-6). That way he does not have to go over the front seats. 

   

  For slider canopies on side by side RV's, there is a reverse tip up mod, which makes access to the baggage area easy.

   

  Its a good thing to remind people to be careful. May be a little semi hard fiberglass panel or cover can be made to pop over the panel or avionics where knobs sticking out that can be hit and bent. You could store the cover in some out of the way place under the panel when not in use? The cover could be very light composite sandwich construction.

   

  Cheers 

   



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Posted: Sun Jul 27, 2008 7:44 am Post subject: Icom A200

It's very interesting to see so many are planning  or have already put an A200 or other radio into their communication panel.   I built my RV8-A, N4032Q, using only 2 of the ICOM IC-A22.  I'm still  trying to sell my plane because of my cancer, however, I feel I have an  extremely reliable installation beyond normal aircraft reliability and at a  lower cost.  In my AC, one of the portable units is mounted with just the  operational top in front of the panel and connected to AC power and  antenna.  This has given me excellent communication just as good as normal  5 watt and better frequency selection than normal two AC communication  systems.  No problems have occured but ...

  

 The second ICOM IC-A22 can just be put into the  panel unit position. It takes about 30 seconds and you're back to using the  same antenna, power and means of operation.  You don't need two  communications panels or know different operational methods.  If the  problem is your AC power, you can just directly connect the second unit to your  AC antenna and use your second units battery power.  Puts you  back to to the same 5 watt audibility and the operational methods are still the  same.  The only thing that is left that can lower communications capability  is if the AC antenna breaks and you have to use the portable antenna  attached to your IC-A22.  Extremely unlikely compared to most aircraft  problems, yet still a very remote failure that restricts the distance over which  you can usefully communicate.

  

 Anyway, I thought it would be useful to pass on how  I made my VFR day/night communications system more reliable,  operational, and cheaper.  Something you can consider if you're still  thinking how to build your own.

  

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:42 pm Post subject: ICOM A200

At Oshkosh AirVenture 2008 C I asked Icom about how to replace the rubber on the knobs.� They gave me one of the rubber rings for one of the knobs on the spot.� They would have given me all of them if they had them. They had a good selection but not everything.� They gave me a business card with a phone number to call so that I can get all of the replacement rubber parts.



Gary A. Sobek 

"My Sanity" RV-6 N157GS O-320 Hartzell C  

2 C142.6 + Flying Hours So. CA C USA 



Date: Fri C 1 Aug 2008 15:25:47 -0400

From: sportav8r(at)gmail.com

To: RickWaedekin(at)icomamerica.com

Subject: Re: ICOM A200



Rick:



Thank you for taking the time to respond to the discussion of the broken tuning knob on the A200.� That certainly is good news about the part availability.� Too often C misunderstandings C half-truths and false information are repeated on the internet without question C to everyone's detriment.

 

I will be contacting ICOM for a replacement part C and installing it myself C and probably blogging the process.� 



I agree with your time estimate: about 10 minutes start to finish (1 hour minimum charge) seems right C based on my experience.� I am glad that ICOM will make this part available to owner-pilot-builders who have the savvy to effect this repair.� Thanks for clearing that up.� I own 4 different ICOM amateur and aviation radios C and am happy with them all.� Keep up the good work!

 

-Bill Boyd



On Fri C Aug 1 C 2008 at 2:41 PM C Rick Waedekin <RickWaedekin(at)icomamerica.com (RickWaedekin(at)icomamerica.com)> wrote:

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		                       Good morning/ afternoon everyone.� I was forwarded a link to your blog site and felt compelled to respond. �It appears there is a lot of misinformation floating around about ICOM so I thought I would clear up as much as I could for you.

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  I would've posted this to your site C but I couldn't figure out how to do so�

  �

  

1)������ The part needed to fix the busted knob is our part number 0308670106 and anyone can call our parts department and buy one for $64.27.� Our parts department contact information is listed on our website but here it is as well. �  

Icom America Parts Department

 (800) 346-0495

 Monday - Friday C 8:00 AM-5:00 PM Pacific Time  

2)������ We have many Avionics Shops that could also get the part and fix it for you. �Gulf/ Pacific Coast C Eastern Avionics C Aircraft Spruce C American Avionics C Banyan just to name a few shops. �Plus C we have our Service department here in Bellevue C WA as well as our regional service center in Anderson C  SC that could fix this for you as well. �All of this information is right on our website as well.  

3)������ It only takes one hour to repair/ replace the rotary encoder on the A200.  �

  Obviously we'd rather have one of our dealers/ repair facilities fix this problem as there are a lot of ribbon cables and such that if not treated correctly can do even more damage to the unit C and wind up costing even more money down the road. �

  �

  On a final note C as a rule ICOM's parts department supports most of the parts needed to fix our products for up to 10 years after the last date of manufacture.

  �

  I hope this cleared up some of the questions floating around.

  �

  Thanks for your support of ICOM products.

  �

  Rick Waedekin | National Sales Manager | Icom America C Inc.

  2380   116th Ave NE |�Bellevue C  WA |�98004

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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: ICOM A200

Funny you should mention that!  My present A200 has lost both the smaller rubber rings (tuning and volume)to dry-rot/UV damage.  I need replacements to get that nice "feel" back, although the knobs do turn okay without the grip rings.

 

I guess I can at least save shipping ordering them along with the switch unit.



-Bill B



On Fri, Aug 1, 2008 at 4:39 PM, RV6 Flyer <rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com (rv6_flyer(at)hotmail.com)> wrote:

 [quote]     At Oshkosh AirVenture 2008, I asked Icom about how to replace the rubber on the knobs.  They gave me one of the rubber rings for one of the knobs on the spot.  They would have given me all of them if they had them. They had a good selection but not everything.  They gave me a business card with a phone number to call so that I can get all of the replacement rubber parts.

 

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