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ghinman(at)mts.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 6:24 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

The gear on my starter will not retract back

away from the flywheel gear.

          It is not jammed against the flywheel because it will not retract

even when the flywheel is removed

               Any ideas

 It is a Lycoming O-360 with one of the larger starters.



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George H. Inman

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rv4ross(at)charter.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:29 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

George,

   Spray some lubricant such as LPS1 onto the gear and the shaft that it 

slides on.  Rotate that gear until the lubricant

is worked back onto the shaft.  If this does not free it up you may have to 

replace the starter.



Good luck,



Ross Scroggs

RV4 Fuselage

Locust Grove, GA

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:33 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

George Inman 204 287 8334 wrote:

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            The gear on my starter will not retract back

 away from the flywheel gear.

          It is not jammed against the flywheel because it will not 

 retract

 even when the flywheel is removed

               Any ideas

Two:
	


Remove the bendix and clean real good ..... do not grease.  It may be 

worn so bad it needs parts replaced.

Buy a skytec starter.  No bendix to worry about.



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		   It is a Lycoming O-360 with one of the larger starters.

My O-360 has a Skytec.  You won't believe the difference!!!
	


Linn

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pitts_pilot(at)bellsouth.
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 7:39 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

rv4ross wrote:

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 George,

   Spray some lubricant such as LPS1 onto the gear and the shaft that 

 it slides on.  Rotate that gear until the lubricant

 is worked back onto the shaft.  If this does not free it up you may 

 have to replace the starter.

You should still clean the LPS1 off.  And you can take the starter to an 
	


auto starter place and they'll replace the parts.  If it were me .... 

I'd just buy a Skytec. ..... and no, I don't get paid for my opinion.  I 

really like mine .... and hate anything with a bendix.

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 Good luck,



 Ross Scroggs

 RV4 Fuselage

 Locust Grove, GA

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jsflyrv(at)verizon.net
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Posted: Thu Jul 31, 2008 11:37 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

George Inman 204 287 8334 wrote:



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 <ghinman(at)mts.net>



            The gear on my starter will not retract back

 away from the flywheel gear.

          It is not jammed against the flywheel because it will not 

 retract

 even when the flywheel is removed

               Any ideas

 It is a Lycoming O-360 with one of the larger starters.



Is this after starting? The starter gear will not retract untill it 
	


reaches a certain RPM

If you engage the starter and the engine does not start they will 

sometime not retract.

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JFLEISC(at)aol.com
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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 12:49 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

In a message dated 8/1/2008 3:38:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  jsflyrv(at)verizon.net writes:

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		  Is this    after starting? The starter gear will not retract until it 

reaches a    certain RPM

If you engage the starter and the engine does not start they    will 

sometime not retract.

	


 

 Ditto. That has been my experience with those antiques. I welded a bracket  to adapt a Mitsubishi starter (looks like a skytec but got it free off a junk  car) and it has been great for the last 10 years.

  

 Jim



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Jerry Grimmonpre'

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 144
Location: Huntley, Illinois 60142

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 1:14 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

Jim

 [quote]   Is it possible to submit a picture to the    list showing what you have done to make the Mitsubishi starter useable?     Maybe a word description?

   Thanks ... 

   Jerry

   RV4

   



      In a message dated 8/1/2008 3:38:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net) writes:



   

   Ditto. That has been my experience with those antiques. I welded a    bracket to adapt a Mitsubishi starter (looks like a skytec but got it free off    a junk car) and it has been great for the last 10 years.

    

   Jim



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Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

In a message dated 8/1/2008 5:15:24 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,  jerry(at)mc.net writes:

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		     Is it possible to submit a picture to the    list showing what you have done to make the Mitsubishi starter useable?     Maybe a word description?

   Thanks ... 

   Jerry

   RV4

   



      In a message dated 8/1/2008 3:38:31 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, jsflyrv(at)verizon.net (jsflyrv(at)verizon.net) writes:



   

   Ditto. That has been my experience with those antiques. I welded a    bracket to adapt a Mitsubishi starter (looks like a skytec but got it free off    a junk car) and it has been great for the last 10 years.

    

   Jim

	


 

 Jerry;

     I looked through my files and this  pathetic photo is the only thing I have. It is a permanent magnet gear  reduction "nose-less" type of starter that I remember getting out of a  Mitsubishi. They should be easy to come by because the engines and frames  usually fall apart and all that's left is the starter. It has 2 mounting ears  and I made a flat plate with holes, that mounts to the spot where the original  starter went on my 0-360. I welded 2 ears onto the plate with a tube (for bolts)  on each ear. You have to get this part right for the correct gear engagement.  There is a small support "tang" on the back of the plate that rests on the back  of the starter so the drive won't push out of the flywheel teeth when  engaged. It weighs about half as much as the stock starter so keep weight and  balance in mind. It spins the engine about twice as fast which may cause a  problem as mine did. It spun just fast enough that the magneto impulse coupler  would not engage. I had to lighten the fly weights in the magneto. Works great  now. 

     One other thing; shortly after I put it in the  starter drive clutch started to slip. A replacement drive was outrageous but the  Mitsubishi drive can be disassembled. I removed the worn cam rollers and bought  a drill blank a few thousandths larger. Cut it up and used them as replacement  rollers. That was 10 years ago and it still works perfect.

  

 Jim



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Jerry Grimmonpre'

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Location: Huntley, Illinois 60142

Posted: Fri Aug 01, 2008 7:25 pm Post subject: Starter gear won't retract

Thanks Jim ...

 I follow your word description fairly good, Jim, and congratulate you  on your creative problem solving.  I'll try this in the future.

 Jerry

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