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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

The Fly-In is just around the corner and we're sure getting excited to see everyone.  Just want to remind everyone that the deadline for getting the group rate at the Marriott is August 28th so be sure to make your reservations.  Also be sure to register with us for the Fly-In so we can give the caterers the proper headcount.  

 

 See You in Oklahoma City!!

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WINGFLYER1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Aug 13, 2008 11:18 am Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Have not received the news letter or info on fly in. Thanks Gil  Walker  N-6819-Q (680)



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Peter Bichier

Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 103
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Posted: Wed Aug 27, 2008 11:41 pm Post subject: Re: TCFG FLY-IN

as jb mentioned the Marriott rooms are going fast! I just booked my room and they claimed only 2 rooms left for the TCFG. I did get the 109 rate!



as I have also mentioned I'm not a member, but hopefully I'll catch up there. The link for membership doesn't work from this end...



really looking forward to see and hear those tough birds and all you guys behind it!



May be some of the newsletters could be brought for the newcomers   



If the commercial flights get on time, I should be in OKC around 13:00 and hopefully sharp for registration and more to see some of those birds landing!



I'll have a rental with me, and since I should be alone, I'll be glad to share it w. those coming the right way   



Peter Bichier (734) 355-4820

Now, I can say N5462Z (560) ex owner's son

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 10, 2008 9:10 am Post subject: TCFG Fly-In

Hey Commander Enthusiasts

 

 Here's the schedule for the upcoming Fly-In next week (subject to change of course).  As you can see we have a great mix of speakers and some fun activities.  Plus the people you get to meet are awesome!!!  Anyway, if you haven't made plans to come, rearrange your schedule and join us for tons of fun!!!! 

 

 

   <?xml:namespace prefix = o ns = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" /> 

   Thursday, Septemer 18, 2008 

   3:00 â€“ 8:30pm  Registration 

   6:30 â€“ 8:30pm  Welcome BBQ Dinner

    

   FRIDAY, September 19, 2008

    8:30 â€“ 9:00am    Breakfast 

    9:00 â€“ 9:15am    Welcome/Announcements

                                     Jim Metzger

   9:15 â€“ 10:00am    Exhaust Systems

                                      John McCreay, Wall Colmonoy Corp

   10:00 â€“ 10:15am  Break 

   10:15 â€“ 11:00am  Commander Aero Update

                                       John Bosch 

   11:00 â€“ 11:45am  Commander Parts & Vendors 

      Dennis Snow, Legacy Aviation 

   12:00 â€“ 1:00pm    Lunch 

   1:00 â€“ 1:45pm      Aircraft Titles, Escrows and International Registration 

      Kim Thompson, Powell Aircraft Title Services

   1:45 â€“ 2:45pm      Q&A  Maintenance Panel

   3:00pm                  Leave for Bricktown 

   4:00 â€“ 5:00pm      Canal Boat Ride tour 

   5:00 -  ???              Explore Bricktown and Dinner on your own 

    

   Saturday, September 20, 2008 

   8:30 â€“ 9:00am     Breakfast 

   9:00 â€“ 10:00am   Fuel Issues 

                   John Towner, Central Air 

   10:00 â€“ 10:15am  Break 

   10:15 â€“ 11:00am  New FAA Proposal re Obsolete Parts & Orphan Type Certs 

      Morris Kernick, Commander Services

   11:00 â€“ 11:45am  Turbine Commander Maintenance & Upgrades 

      Russ Hampton, The Servicenter 

   12:00 â€“ 12:45pm  Lunch 

   12:45 â€“ 2:00pm    Aero Commander History â€“ 60 Years

                                       Bill McGinnis

   2:15pm   &nbsp ;             Leave to visit Prototype 

    

   6:30-10:00  Dinner & Auction 

                          Featuring Ron Smith (Ted Smithâ€™s son) as guest speaker

    

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n395v

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 450

Posted: Thu Sep 11, 2008 5:53 am Post subject: Re: TCFG FLY-IN

Good thing the fly in isn't this weekend



From AOPA:



==> ATTENTION PILOTS <== 



FAA TO ESTABLISH TFR OVER OKLAHOMA CITY ON FRIDAY

AOPA is sending this message to advise pilots in and near Oklahoma City,

Oklahoma, that the FAA has issued a notam restricting flight

in the area during President Bush's planned visit on Friday,

September 12. See AOPA Online for a graphical depiction of the

temporary flight restriction (TFR)

( http://www.aopa.org/images/whatsnew/...ams/8-7539.gif ).

==> TFR DETAILS <==

SIZE:

30-nm-radius TFR with an inner 12-nm GA no-fly zone

Surface up to 17,999 feet msl



LOCATION:

Centered on the PWA VOR's 092-degree radial at 8.9 nm



EFFECTIVE TIMES:

8:45 a.m. until 1:15 p.m. local on Friday, September 12 



IMPACTED AIRPORTS: 

Oklahoma National Guard Heliport, 77OK; 

Expressway Airpark, 12OK;

Kwtv Heliport, 42OK; 

Tinker Afb, TIK; 

Wiley Post, PWA; 

Will Rogers World, OKC; 

Sundance Airpark, HSD; 

5b Ranch, 1OK8; 

Odom's Roost, 76OK; 

Myrick, 33OK; 

University Of Oklahoma Westheimer, OUN; 

Bost Ranch, OK55; 

Clarence E Page Municipal, F29; 

David Jay Perry, 1K4; 

Guthrie-Edmond Regional, GOK; 

Frost Ranch, 2OK1; 

Warbonnet, 8OK1; 

Hickory Hills, 10OK; 

Chandler Armory Heliport, 63OK; 

El Reno, 99F; McCaslin, O44; 

El Reno Regional, RQO; 

Shawnee Regional, SNL; 

Harman, 47OK; 

Muldrow Ahp Heliport, HMY

Read AOPA's plain-language notam explanation

( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#8/7539-plain ).



View the notam ( http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/notams.html#8/7539 ).



Because TFR airspace frequently changes, AOPA strongly encourages

pilots to obtain a briefing and CHECK NOTAMS before every flight.

TFR violators will be intercepted and forced to land.

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Milt

yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 15, 2008 2:18 pm Post subject: TCFG Fly-In

Only a few more days until our big Fly-In.  Can't wait to see all you Commander Enthusiasts again as we celebrate the 60th Anniversary of the Aero Commander.  Looks like we'll have perfect weather so hop in your Commander, your car, a commercial flight, bus or train and come join us.  

 

 Remember to bring an item for our Auction Saturday night.  

 

 ~Capt Jim Bob

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yourtcfg(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Mon Sep 22, 2008 10:52 am Post subject: TCFG Fly-In

We arrived safely at home last night around 6:00pm (7 hours and 50 minutes flying time).  Clear skies until the last 15 minutes of maneuvering through clouds and rain through the Columbia River Gorge.  Not a problem for the 680E though.  

 

 A great BIG thank you to all of you who attended this year's Fly-In.  You're such a great group of people to be around and we feel blessed to count you as our friends.  

 

 How amazing it was to hear from people who were at the factory in the early days and to hear from Ted Smith's son.  The information, photos, drawings, newspaper clippings and other items they brought to share with us were pretty awesome too!!  Cool to see the prototype in person as well.  All in all it was a rare opportunity to get first hand perspective about the history of the awesome birds we fly and meet with people who are passionate about Aero Commanders.  Those of you who missed it missed out on a once in a lifetime opportunity to be around that kind of history.  

 

 And, a huge thank you to all of you who were so generous during the Auction.  We set a record this year raising $3400 which was given to the fund for restoring the Prototype AeroCommander (L-3805) so it can be put in a museum.  WOW!!!!  

 

 More information (ummm.....stories) to follow in the next issue of Flight Group news. 

  

 Again, thanks again from the bottom of our hearts for making this another great Fly-In.  

 

 Jim & Sue Metzger  

 

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dowens(at)aerialviewpoint
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 10:17 am Post subject: TCFG Fly-In

Missed the Fly in again... Thank God we have power  at the office again... The aircraft were moved away from Houston area due to  Hurricane IKE>>> Gone but not forgotten. Mabey next year.

  

  

  

  

 David Owens

Aerial  Viewpoint

N14AV

AC-500A-Colemill

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jtaddington(at)verizon.ne
Guest

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 2:34 pm Post subject: TCFG Fly-In

You did miss a good one.  

Jim  

N444BD  

500A  

         

  

From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of David Owens

 Sent: Tuesday, September 23, 2008 2:14 PM

 To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

 Subject: Re: TCFG Fly-In  

  

     

Missed the Fly in again... Thank God we have power at the office again... The aircraft were moved away from Houston area due to Hurricane IKE>>> Gone but not forgotten. Mabey next year.  

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

   

    

David Owens

 Aerial Viewpoint

 N14AV

 AC-500A-Colemill  

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Peter Bichier

Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 103
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Posted: Tue Sep 23, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN with pictures!

For those who where there, here is an opportunity to see what really happened!



There was so much going on that it was even hard to take time off to take pictures...



Been the new comer I took the leisure to step back a bit and be the external eyes of the group.



If any of those pictures interest you (Sue/Jim) for the up coming newsletter let me know! (Barry, Russell) here is what I have, so just point out what you want to have me send you your way.



Good night folks, and have fun!



thanks again all!



p.



http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/TCFG?pli=1&gsessionid=v_1_HAHeT-EOO0uVDMwU2g#

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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:35 am Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

That's great, Peter. Would you mind if I put them on the website? It would

be nice if some captions could be written. Someone?



I am so sad that I missed this particular Flyin. Not that missing all the

others were better, but I can only look to next year.



Thanks



Nico



 



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peter.bichier(at)utoledo.
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 9:09 am Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Hey Nico,



yeah, I have noticed that you are behind the web site, good job! and I was hoping to meet you since not only you're behind the scenes, but you also contribute to the discussions often.

may be next year?

go ahead post whatever you want, I'm glad I can do something for the rest of the group, time for the newcomers to chip in no?

p.



On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:33 AM, nico css wrote:

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drwer2

Joined: 24 Sep 2008
Posts: 41
Location: Squaw Valley, CA

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 2:57 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Peter, have you taken down your pictures?  Google wont provide access.

  

 wer



--- On Wed, 9/24/08, Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)UTNet.UToledo.Edu> wrote:



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		  From: Peter Bichier <pbichie(at)UTNet.UToledo.Edu>

Subject: Re: TCFG FLY-IN

To: commander-list(at)matronics.com

Date: Wednesday, September 24, 2008, 12:38 AM



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		  --> Commander-List message posted by: "Peter Bichier"

<pbichie(at)UTNet.UToledo.Edu>



For those who where there, here is an opportunity to see what really happened!



There was so much going on that it was even hard to take time off to take

pictures...



Been the new comer I took the leisure to step back a bit and be the external

eyes of the group.



If any of those pictures interest you (Sue/Jim) for the up coming newsletter

let me know! (Barry, Russell) here is what I have, so just point out what you

want to have me send you your way.



Good night folks, and have fun!



thanks again all!



p.



http://picasaweb.google.com/YVABE560/TCFG?pli=1&gsessionid=v_1_HAHeT-EOO0uVDMwU2g#



--------

560 Dreamer





Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p 5881#205881





	
	


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cogito ergo aero-geek

cloudcraft(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:21 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Ditto, here.   I took a quick glance this morning and wanted to go back this evening and really savor each one.

 

 By the way -- and this may have been made very obvious to everyone at the Fly-In -- isn't it interesting that there was a A-26 at the Fly-In and it was one of Ted Smith's projects while at Douglas Aircraft?   

 

 Did everyone get the similarity between the A-26 design and cockpit photos and the shots of the AC-520?  I think that's amazing!   Couldn't have been planned better for a celebration of the Commander's birthday.

 

 If Peter's photos were still up, I'd list each complimenting picture number between the A-26 and a Commander.

 

 Wing Commander Gordon

 

 

  Life is not simple anywhere. Probably less so elsewhere.

   

 

   

 

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BertBerry1(at)aol.com
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:31 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

If anyone else happens to have photos, would you please consider posting  them as well.

  

 Bert

  

  In a message dated 9/24/2008 6:22:19 P.M. Central Daylight Time,  cloudcraft(at)aol.com writes:

 [quote]   Ditto, here.   I took    a quick glance this morning and wanted to go back this evening and really    savor each one.



By the way -- and this may have been made very obvious    to everyone at the Fly-In -- isn't it interesting that there was a A-26 at the    Fly-In and it was one of Ted Smith's projects while at Douglas    Aircraft?   



Did everyone get the similarity between the A-26    design and cockpit photos and the shots of the    AC-520?  I think that's amazing!   Couldn't have been planned    better for a celebration of the Commander's birthday.



If Peter's photos were still up,    I'd list each complimenting picture number between the A-26 and a    Commander.



Wing Commander Gordon





   Life is not simple anywhere.    Probably less so elsewhere.

   



   



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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Peter, if it will help, you can send them to me via email and I will post

them on the website. I'd like to post some of the comments on the flyin

also.

Nico

nico(at)cybersuperstore.com



 



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nico(at)cybersuperstore.c
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 3:42 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

There is no limitation on newcomers, Peter. There are so  many folks that I would have wanted to meet. Next year may be a good prospect.  

 I missed our 45th high-school reunion and the flyin to be  able to celebrate my mom's 90th birthday with her in Cape Town. There is no  doubt that I made the right, though painful, choice. 

 The google website does not show the pics any longer.  

 See my earlier email.

 Nico

  



   From: owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com  [mailto:owner-commander-list-server(at)matronics.com] On Behalf Of peter  bichier

Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2008 10:06 AM

To:  commander-list(at)matronics.com

Subject: TCFG  FLY-IN

 

Hey Nico, 



 yeah, I have noticed that you are behind the web site, good job! and I was  hoping to meet you since not only you're behind the scenes, but you also  contribute to the discussions often.

 



 may be next year?

 



 go ahead post whatever you want, I'm glad I can do something for the rest  of the group, time for the newcomers to chip in no?

 



 p.

   

  On Sep 24, 2008, at 10:33 AM, nico css wrote:

 [quote]   --> Commander-List message posted by: "nico css"    <nico(at)cybersuperstore.com (nico(at)cybersuperstore.com)>

   



   That's great, Peter. Would you mind if I put them on    the website? It would

   be nice if some captions could be written.    Someone?

   



   I am so sad that I missed this particular Flyin. Not    that missing all the

   others were better, but I can only look to next    year.

   



   Thanks

   



   Nico

   







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Peter Bichier

Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 103
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:18 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

WOW!



I guess the word is around!



sorry for the delay, I was just adding some captions and somehow messed it all out!



it SHOULD be running now! let me know,



p.

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tfisher(at)commandergroup
Guest

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 5:45 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

As I was unable to attend I would like to see the handouts that were 

floating about.

Tom

C-GISS



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Peter Bichier

Joined: 25 Aug 2008
Posts: 103
Location: Toledo, Ohio

Posted: Wed Sep 24, 2008 6:02 pm Post subject: TCFG FLY-IN

Nico, you know you made the right choice.



Like I said before, I'm doing all this for myself of course ('cause I truly like these planes) but I also recognize that I wouldn't be here if it was not for the old man (purchasing a 560 in 72! for ex.) so I also owe it to him. Unfortunately I can't share this wonderful group of people with him any longer. I really wish he could have taken advantage of the wonders of the internet (and here we see its positive side) and share TCFG's knowledge to help keep his plane and his dream alive (although politics seem to mingle into peoples life too...)



All I want to say, is that family first! my grand mother lived until 93 years old, I had to fly to France for it, the whole family went and that was pretty much her last which.



Hope you found her sound and spirited, it is important to keep in touch with our elders while we can. Look at the photos and see how our elders are doing great because they're also in their passion!



The photos should be up, and ah... there are 291 pictures (I added an extra one since you opened it last) and I don't how much space they take but I think close to 300MB... a bit much for emails...



I also set up the album so anyone can download any pictures. 



Let me know if you know more about picasa and you have something in mind (to tell you the truth it's the 1st time I used it...)



thanks for the feed back and enjoy!



p. 



[quote="nico(at)cybersuperstore.c"]There is no limitation on newcomers, Peter. There are so  many folks that I would have wanted to meet. Next year may be a good prospect.  

 I missed our 45th high-school reunion and the flyin to be  able to celebrate my mom's 90th birthday with her in Cape Town. There is no  doubt that I made the right, though painful, choice. 

 The google website does not show the pics any longer.  

 See my earlier email.

 Nico

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