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Mike Schnabel

Joined: 27 Jan 2006
Posts: 114
Location: Manchester, TN

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:41 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Gentlemen,

   

  Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.

   

  My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have an opinion?

   

  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!

   

  Mike S

  Firestar2 503

  Manchester TN



		

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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:49 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

|  My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow 

that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). 

Does anyone have an opinion?

|

|  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!

|

|  Mike S



Mike:



I'm not a grass man, but I am lucky enough to have a little grass 

strip.



I can't remember what kind of seed I sewed after tilling, but never 

put any more on it after the initial planting.  My strip is surrounded 

by and was part of the hay fields/pastures of the farm.



I'd check with the local country agent or the man at the feed/seed 

store, and go with his recommendations.  For me, all I want is 

something to cover the dirt and keep the dust and errosion down.



No matter what you put on it, it will grow too fast in the summer. 





john h

MKIII

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tkrolfe(at)usadatanet.net
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:14 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Mike Schnabel wrote:



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Gentlemen,

   

  Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.

   

  My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have an opinion?

   

  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!

   

  Mike S

  Firestar2 503

  Manchester TN



		



  




	


Mike, 



Ask your local Agway dealer about "Shortcut" grass.



Terry -  FireFly #95

rsanoa

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 71
Location: Bell Buckle,TN

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:27 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

All,

       On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and his Kolb for this. A Kolb is a perfect vehicle for it.  Forget grass.  Many years ago while doing some airshow work, we had an act known as the worlds smallest airport.  A J3 cub would take off and land on top of an automobile. Of course the auto had to be moving. A couple of 20-22 ft.wood channels  were fastened on top of a car, with a couple of properly placed wheel "wells" up at the end. The Cub was placed on top in position and the car driven to take off speed and the pilot just gave it full throttle and lifted off. Came in over the car at landing speed and carefully dropped into the wheel wells, throttled back, and there he was.  Kolb visibility and landing speed perfect for this. Johns experience in dropping helicopters into tight landing spaces makes him the logical candidate to do it first with a Kolb. Who will volunteer to go down and videotape?

   

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John Hauck <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com> wrote:

  

Mike:



I'm not a grass man, but I am lucky enough to have a little grass 

strip.



I can't remember what kind of seed I sewed after tilling, but never 

put any more on it after the initial planting. My strip is surrounded 

by and was part of the hay fields/pastures of the farm.



I'd check with the local country agent or the man at the feed/seed 

store, and go with his recommendations. For me, all I want is 

something to cover the dirt and keep the dust and errosion down.



No matter what you put on it, it will grow too fast in the summer. 





john h

MKIII 





			

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:31 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

At 07:40 AM 3/12/06 -0800, you wrote:

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  My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is 

best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone 
	


have an opinion?

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Mike,



After moving to Winchester, IN and moving into a new home, I had to figure 

out what lawn seed to use.  I talked to a fellow who baby sits I22 about 

what grass to use.  He had a home landing strip and recommended Manhattan 

II.  It is a dwarf perennial rye grass.  If you are not going to graze your 

strip and you are going to mow it, this may be the grass for you.  



I Googled the web and found a source at:



http://www.ryegrasses.com/info/turfseed/manhattan.html

  

The latest variety is Manhattan IV. I have used this grass to establish a 

new lawn around the house. It is a little pricey, but I believe it is well 

worth it, just for the difference in mowing expense.  When I get my runway 

levelled, I will be using it on the runway too.



Jack B. Hart FF004

Winchester, IN

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 8:49 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

|       On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and his 

Kolb for this.



Ray Anderson



Ray:



Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that.  Maybe 

someone in the 20's or 30's.



Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go 

with a 40 year old?



john h



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MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

herbgh

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 145

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:32 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Yeah!  We need someone who heals quickly.. . Herb 



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On Sun, 12 Mar 2006 10:48:26 -0600 "John Hauck" <jhauck(at)elmore.rr.com>

writes:

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  |       On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and 

 his 

 Kolb for this.

 

 Ray Anderson

 

 Ray:

 

 Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that.  Maybe 

 

 someone in the 20's or 30's.

 

 Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go 

 

 with a 40 year old?

 

 john h

 

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Kirk Smith

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 78
Location: SE Michigan

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 11:37 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited

for a runway (if it really makes much difference).



I just let the weeds that grow here naturally come up and mowed them.



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Bill Vincent

Joined: 30 Jan 2006
Posts: 84

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 12:51 pm Post subject: Re: Grass strip turf question

Hi Gang

I agree with Kirk, but personally, I think you should plant any type of grass that deer dislike (maybe even plant astro turf 

The deer on the runway that I fly from usually come out at dusk, they used to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now they just stand there and stick their tongues out at me...four times last year I  had to abort my landing because they were either standing in the way or they were running across the runway in front of me, I am thinking it is the clover in the grass they like.

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Firestar II
Upper Peninsula of Michigan

biglar

Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Posts: 457

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 2:25 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Yah, but those're Yooper deer.           Do not Archive.



Larry Bourne

Palm Springs, CA

Building Kolb Mk III

N78LB  Vamoose

www.gogittum.com



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Kirk Smith

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 78
Location: SE Michigan

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 3:45 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:25 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

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 they used to run when they heard me coming in for a landing, but now

they just stand there and stick their tongues out at me...four times

last year I  had to abort my landing because they were either standing

in the way or they were running across the runway in front of me, I am

thinking it is the clover in the grass they like.



<SNIP>



deer in your area scared of a bullet?  



Jeremy



P.S.  The local law enforcement might frown on the gun in the

cockpit...maybe you can convince them you're an air marshall?

n79rt(at)kilocharlie.us
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:27 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

|       On subject of strips and runways, I nominate John H. and his 

Kolb for this.



Ray Anderson



Ray:



Maybe we ought to get some of the younger folks to try that.  Maybe 

someone in the 20's or 30's.



Do we have anyone on the Kolb List that young? or will we have to go 

with a 40 year old?



john h

<snip>



Hey John,



I'm 31 and game to try it...can I use your plane?  (It does have the

strongest landing gear of any Kolb out there...it seems like the logical

choice?  



Jeremy Casey



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John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 4:42 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

| I'm 31 and game to try it...can I use your plane?  (It does have 

the

| strongest landing gear of any Kolb out there...it seems like the 

logical

| choice?  

|

| Jeremy Casey



Jeremy:



Be lot more fun to use yours.



john h

MKIII



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John Hauck
MKIII/912ULS
hauck's holler
Titus, Alabama

ceengland(at)bellsouth.ne
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Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 7:05 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Mike Schnabel wrote:



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Gentlemen,

   

  Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.

   

  My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have an opinion?

   

  Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!

   

  Mike S

  Firestar2 503

  Manchester TN




	


We use Bermuda here in central Mississippi; it's durable & grows low & 

fairly slow. Cuts down on mowing a lot if we can keep the dallas grass & 

other weeds off it. One or two treatments a season with MSMA helps a lot.



Be sure to check on whether the grass you choose will thrive in your 

climate. One of the founding members of our strip did a lot of research, 

found some expensive custom breed that's great for runways, bought a lot 

of it & it all died. Seems it was bred for northern climes & 'couldn't 

take the heat.'

Denny Rowe

Joined: 10 Jan 2006
Posts: 89
Location: Leechburg, PA

Posted: Sun Mar 12, 2006 9:54 pm Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Mike,

I bought Timithy (hay) seed from a local farmer.  Several farmers sell it 

around here for $20-$25 a bushel.

You may have the deer problems with it that someone mentioned as they do 

like it but it is dirt cheap and that makes it easy to overseed so it comes 

in thick, it also came up nice and quick.

You might want to check with the local farmers.

Denny

ultrastarrick(at)yahoo.co
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Posted: Mon Mar 13, 2006 6:45 am Post subject: Grass strip turf question

Go to your local golf coarse and see which farway grass they use for your area.

  or the greans which would be shorter and a finer blade but may not be as derable as the farway grass

  



Mike Schnabel <tnfirestar2(at)yahoo.com> wrote:

  



Gentlemen,



Finally spring is nearing, and the rain has stayed away long enough for ground preparation on my grass runway. We have been working the ground the last few months, and have disked and dragged to what is now a very nice level surface.



My question: its now time to decide what grass to attempt to grow that is best suited for a runway (if it really makes much difference). Does anyone have an opinion?



Thanks in advance for sharing your thoughts!



Mike S

Firestar2 503

Manchester TN

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