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Possums

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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:34 pm Post subject: Stuff

Me & Icrashrc got a new Disney World ride.

Go to Possums Videos "Two"

He's got it down to 1.4 MB



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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 6:42 pm Post subject: Stuff

That was a short ride.



BB



(but then we didn't have to pay disney 



On 19, Aug 2008, at 10:33 PM, possums wrote:



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		   Me & Icrashrc got a new Disney World ride.

 Go to Possums Videos "Two"

 He's got it down to 1.4 MB



 http://www.ill-eagleaviation.com/possums_video.htm

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Possums

Joined: 03 Nov 2007
Posts: 247

Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:31 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 10:42 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote:

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 That was a short ride.



 BB 	


 Well ...... "Beauford T" said that since I did it with one eye closed & all he thought 

 it was pretty good. Besides, down here in Georgia we got our on 'N Nubers" you

 guys up north maybe didn't apply for: Works really good down here on the lakes.



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Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 7:54 pm Post subject: Re: Stuff

Oh my gawd !  I have never seen a Kolb flown like that...  That was pretty awesome, what kind of airspeed and G load did you pull out at ?   All I can say is that you have some big brass #####



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Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 11:38 pm Post subject: Stuff

Ya Mike,

I had the same thought.  I watched the airspeed build up very rapidly 

and then a very rapid pull out on recovery -  having aerobatic 

training and owned an aerobatic airplane (Citabria), that caught my 

attention.



More for grins we actually had a G-meter in our FireFly - my partner 

wanted it.  He paid for it, I had to squeeze it in along with large 

EIS, large diameter airspeed, and altimeter and a small electric 

variometer (VSI).  Do you have any ideal how small the panel space is 

on a FireFly.  It was fun to watch the VSI on climb out and try to 

get just right speed for max rate climb.  It was also interesting 

what G's you encountered in that airplane.  It was like a little red 

sports car.

jerb



At 10:54 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote:

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Oh my gawd !  I have never seen a Kolb flown like that...  That was 

pretty awesome, what kind of airspeed and G load did you pull out at 

?   All I can say is that you have some big brass #####



Mike



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&quot;NO FEAR&quot; -  If you have no fear you did not go as fast as 

you could have !!!



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Read this topic online here:



http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=199585#199585

Possums

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Posted: Thu Aug 21, 2008 8:15 am Post subject: Stuff

At 03:37 AM 8/21/2008, you wrote:

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Ya Mike,

I had the same thought.  I watched the airspeed build up very 

rapidly and then a very rapid pull out on recovery -  having 

aerobatic training and owned an aerobatic airplane (Citabria), that 

caught my attention.


	


It wasn't that bad, the airspeed never got over 70 mph and doubt it 

ever got to 2 G's.

Pull out was taking my foot off the left rudder.  If I had put the stick

back to neutral sooner  it may not have even got to 1.5 G's

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Possums

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 2:16 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 10:42 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote:

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		  --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net>



 That was a short ride.



 BB



 (but then we didn't have to pay disney 	
 

  Here's a longer one. The clouds were nice today.  

  I should put the camera where you can see the Altitude indicator on the EIS.



  The airspeed didn't seem to go up much - stayed less then 70 mph even pulling out.



  Here's one going done the side of one of the 3,000 ft. thick cloud...was

  afraid to hold it all the way to the bottom. It would have take 7 or 8 turns.  



 



    http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=6787107193246239411&hl=en     [quote][b]

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:13 pm Post subject: Stuff

very pretty.  It would be interesting to see if you would reach a stabilized descent.Looked ok from MY chair.

BB



On 31, Aug 2008, at 6:15 PM, possums wrote:

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		   href="http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List">http://www.matronics.com/Navigator?Kolb-List href="http://forums.matronics.com">http://forums.matronics.com href="http://www.matronics.com/contribution">http://www.matronics.com/contribution  [/b] 	
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Possums

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:38 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 07:12 PM 8/31/2008, you wrote:

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		  very pretty.  It would be interesting to see if you would reach a 

stabilized descent.

Looked ok from MY chair.

BB


	


Well,,,,,,,,,,,,, it get's your old heart pumping from where I was sitting.



But a stabilized decent is one way to get through a cloud layer

if your ever stuck on top & the holes close in on you. Been there before.

Radioed the FBO & found out that the cloud base was 1,500 feet AGL

Going home from a trip, but how do you get down thru the clouds from 

4,000 feet?

It is really hard to just fly down through 2 or 3,000 ft of "White out".

In fact, it kind of makes you sick at you stomach because it takes so

long and I bet you would not know if you're turning, flying straight or

upside down after 60 seconds. At least this way I know where I am going,

as long as I've got someone to tell me what it's like when I get there.

Have to try it next time I get in trouble.

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jwdfly

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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 3:53 pm Post subject: Stuff

Come on possum, all those video's look like the  desent into Campbell county TN airport in 1999, after yourself, John, and  myself,almost missed the airport at 5000 feet, on our way to the first kolb home  comeing, 9/24/99, or you trying to land at Ferguson,s strip.

 Jack Danials.

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russ(at)rkiphoto.com
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Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:04 pm Post subject: Stuff

Possums, good advice.

IIRC the early Airmail pilots were taught to spin  down thru the  

clouds if caught above. Even if they had to hit the ground while  

still in a spin, vertical speed was low. They might be dizzy, but  

would likely live.

On Aug 31, 2008, at 7:37 PM, possums wrote:



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 At 07:12 PM 8/31/2008, you wrote:

> very pretty.  It would be interesting to see if you would reach a  

> stabilized descent.

> Looked ok from MY chair.

> BB



 Well,,,,,,,,,,,,, it get's your old heart pumping from where I was  

 sitting.



 But a stabilized decent is one way to get through a cloud layer

 if your ever stuck on top & the holes close in on you. Been there  

 before.

 Radioed the FBO & found out that the cloud base was 1,500 feet AGL

 Going home from a trip, but how do you get down thru the clouds  

 from 4,000 feet?

 It is really hard to just fly down through 2 or 3,000 ft of "White  

 out".

 In fact, it kind of makes you sick at you stomach because it takes so

 long and I bet you would not know if you're turning, flying  

 straight or

 upside down after 60 seconds. At least this way I know where I am  

 going,

 as long as I've got someone to tell me what it's like when I get  

 there.

 Have to try it next time I get in trouble.

John Hauck

Joined: 09 Jan 2006
Posts: 4639
Location: Titus, Alabama (hauck's holler)

Posted: Sun Aug 31, 2008 4:49 pm Post subject: Stuff

> IIRC the early Airmail pilots were taught to spin  down thru the

 	  Quote: 	
		   clouds if caught above. Even if they had to hit the ground while  still in 

 a spin, vertical speed was low. They might be dizzy, but  would likely 

 live.


	




Russ K:



If you are the least bit inclined to believe that BS, we'll let you do the 

first demonstration when your get you new airplane.



One of the easiest hazards to get sucked into and one of the most difficult, 

at times, to get out of.



Took off at 1906 hours tonight.  Sunset was 1912.  Not a breath of air 

moving.  Knew there was a line of thunderstorms south of Gantt IAP.  What I 

didn't know was how fast they were moving north.  Got a 5 minute flight. 

Got it on the ground before the storm hit.  Got out the gate and got it shut 

before I got drenched.  Was fun taking off, bouncing around a little, and 

landing.  My little mkIII sure flies good, even without bristles on its 

back.  



john h

mkIII    - 2,855.5 hours

912uls -    287.0 hours

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 1:09 am Post subject: Stuff

taught to spin  down thru the > clouds if caught above.>>



Hi Russ,

I don`t think I will buy that.  Certainly when I flew gliders spinning down 

through clouds was not unusual. In the UK we regularly climbed up through 

clouds because when the rising thermal changes in to water droplets (clouds) 

there is a release of energy which can boost your glider way up. Cloudflying 

was not allowed in gliders on the Continent so in international Competitions 

we werre not allowed to do it either.

Gliders in those days were fitted with speed limiting, drag inducing wing 

brakes so that even if you lost it in cloud  we could just pull the brakes 

and you knew you wouldn`t break up from overspeeding.



Of course on a good gliding day in the UK you were very unlikely not to have 

a good space between cloudbase and the hard stuff..



Cheers



Pat

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 7:59 am Post subject: Re: Stuff

 	  John Hauck wrote: 	
		  

Took off at 1906 hours tonight.  Sunset was 1912.  Not a breath of air 

moving.  Knew there was a line of thunderstorms south of Gantt IAP.  What I 

didn't know was how fast they were moving north.  Got a 5 minute flight. 

Got it on the ground before the storm hit.  Got out the gate and got it shut 

before I got drenched.  Was fun taking off, bouncing around a little, and 

landing.  My little mkIII sure flies good, even without bristles on its 

back.  



john h mkIII    - 2,855.5 hours

912uls -    287.0 hours

	




Someone needs to send John a video camera to mount to his Kolb.  I would have loved to see the storms and lightning from Johns plane as he got chased back to the field !    Even some still pictures would have been neat,  John, no more flying without your camera 



Mike

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John Hauck

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Posted: Mon Sep 01, 2008 8:26 am Post subject: Stuff

> Someone needs to send John a video camera to mount to his Kolb.

 	  Quote: 	
		  

 Mike


	




Thanks for the suggestion, but I like flying more than photography.  Spur of 

the moment flights, like yesterday, completely unincumbered with unnecessary 

"stuff" can be very enjoyable.



Once, on the way to OSH, I lost GPS coverage coming out of Kankakee, IL, 

where I had RON'd.  Flew pilotage and DED reckoning from there to Joliet, 

IL, where I always refuel.  I picked up the Kankakee River, following it to 

Joliet.  All of the sudden, when I got off the GPS, I was more relaxed, 

enjoying my flight, rather than glancing down at ground speed, staying right 

on course, and pushing.  Entering traffic at Joliet, the GPS came back on 

line.



john h

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:16 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 07:51 PM 8/31/2008, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  Come on possum, all those video's look like the desent into Campbell county TN airport in 1999, after yourself, John, and myself,almost missed the airport at 5000 feet, on our way to the first kolb home comeing, 9/24/99, or you trying to land at Ferguson,s strip.

 Jack Danials.

 Do Not Archive

 Is this the same "Jack Day" that ran a red light in Breman - (He wasn't driving a car). 	


 Let me tell you guys (again) about Jack a "Possum" from way back.

 I watched him land a "Challenger" after his belt broke over

 Bremen, Georgia on our way back from (I think) Lakeland - this was before he got his Kolb.

 He says "I'm puttin it down" and I'm thinking "where are

 you putting it down"?? So ....I'm looking for a field or something

 (there wasn't any) and watching him go down - of course. Going down into the 

 main intersection of Bremen Georgia (not a big city - but ??) and he had the green light.

 Then I watched the light turn red and thought "this sucks for Jack"!

 Watched him touch down and roll through the intersection - cars slam on 

 their brakes, Jack turns into the ditch etc....nobody hit anybody.  

 Long story short, we sent him a ride back from Rome Ga. after hearing

 he was OK on the radio. No sense in all of us getting on the local news. 

 Been there, done that. Cool ....but we gotta go.



 BTW: I still got your "Jack Danials" Possum Jacket.

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 6:46 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 07:12 PM 8/31/2008, you wrote:

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		  very pretty.  It would be interesting to see if you would reach a stabilized descent.

 Looked ok from MY chair.

 BB



 On 31, Aug 2008, at 6:15 PM, possums wrote:



  	  Quote: 	
		  At 10:42 PM 8/19/2008, you wrote:

  	  Quote: 	
		  --> Kolb-List message posted by: robert bean <slyck(at)frontiernet.net (slyck(at)frontiernet.net) >



 That was a short ride. 	
	
	




 Got to start off small & work your way up.



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John Hauck

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 7:17 pm Post subject: Stuff

Stan:

  

 No bad, not bad at all.

  

 Little airplane spins through little  cloud.

  

 If I ever get caught, and I hope I never do because  of my own stupidity, that's how I intend to get me and Miss P'fer  home.

  

 I have a little experience flying UH-1 helicopters  in actual weather with a full house of instruments.  It is not easy.   I could not imagine trying to keep a mkIII straight and level in zero visibility  on VFR instrumentation.

  

 Thanks for sharing your spin experience.  Just  goes to show Possums can spin as good as normal folks.  

  

 john h - Waiting in anticipation of flying to the  Kolb Homecoming a week early this year.

 mkIII

  

  

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Got to start off small & work your    way up.



http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=7008845811094869981&hl=en    

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Possums

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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:19 pm Post subject: Stuff

At 11:16 PM 9/3/2008, you wrote:

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		  Stan:

  

 No bad, not bad at all.

  

 Little airplane spins through little cloud.

 	


 Thanks - Didn't mean nothing about the Kentucky thing.



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Posted: Wed Sep 03, 2008 8:30 pm Post subject: Re: Stuff

I keep expecting to see a rooster on top of the little weathervane Possums uses as a yaw indicator    



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